IRC log of #jetrowebdev for Wednesday, 2025-08-20

thomas_Hi06:56
thomasboimahHi10:18
svayeGood morning thomasboimah 10:35
thomasboimahGood morning svaye and jelkner10:43
jelknerGood morning svaye and thomasboimah 10:44
jelknerAt this time, its morning for all of us again ;-)10:44
thomasboimahYes!10:44
jelknersvaye, any word from mr. zawolo?10:45
jelknerhe isn't here yet10:45
svayeGood morning jelkner 10:45
jelknerbut i heard from another colleague that he was returning tomorrow10:45
jelknerwhich means he may not have time to meet with you again10:46
svayeNo word from Mr Zawolo, I also think he's on his way now, because he's not active on WhatsApp and he's always active. 10:46
jelknerok, i'll wait to catch up with him here10:46
jelknerlet's return to our plan of putting the Jetro office on hold for now10:47
svayejelkner: he's actually leaving today10:47
jelknersince i don't feel comfortable proceeding with that without his guidance10:47
svayeHe said he would have a good talk with you when he gets home.10:47
jelknergreat10:47
svayeHe mentioned it I'm our meeting with him10:47
svayeIn*10:48
jelknergood10:48
jelknerin the mean time, let's focus like a laser on skills building10:48
jelknerDjango and bookkeeping with GnuCash10:48
svayeMy thoughts exactly 10:49
jelknerbtw, svaye, i'm trying to set up a get together with Luis Gomez Alfaro and Heylin Rodriguez to talk about a Bookkeeping cooperative10:49
svayeThat's wonderful, I would love hear how it h10:50
svayeGoes10:50
jelknerWe're talking about August 31st, the day after Kei, Sahnun and I meet with zOnny10:51
jelknerSo a lot will hopefully happen that weekend10:52
svayeThat would be one busy and interactive weekend.10:52
dcammueGood morning folks 10:53
dcammueI am so sorry for yesterday 10:53
svayeGood morning dcammue 10:53
dcammueTime really slipped my mind10:53
jelknerOjalá, svaye 10:53
jelknerGood morning dcammue!10:53
dcammueHow are you Jeff and how was the family gathering10:54
dcammue?10:54
jelknerNo need for "so sorry" hear my dear friend, a simple "sorry folks" will do nicely ;-)10:54
jelknersee my email from this morning10:54
jelkners/hear/here10:54
dcammueOkay 10:54
jelknerYou are *so* responsible10:54
dcammueACTION goes check Jeff mail10:54
jelkneryou have full license to a slip up now and then10:54
jelknerwe all do10:54
jelknerwe just need to keep the rate low10:55
jelknerif we want to be successful that is10:55
jelknerGood morning gabriel_jetro 10:55
svayeGood morning gabriel_jetro 10:56
gabriel_jetroGood morning, jelkner, svaye, thomasboimah and dcammue10:56
thomasboimahGood morning gabriel_jetro 10:56
dcammueI get your advice jelkner 10:56
dcammueGood morning gabriel_jetro 10:57
jelkner"deep apologies" are for serious f**k ups, dcammue, this was one of those ;-)10:57
jelkneroops!!10:57
jelknerwasn't one of those10:57
jelknerlol10:57
jelknerdrats10:57
jelknersorry my friend ;-)10:58
dcammueI read the log yesterday and it was a great conversation btw your guys10:58
jelkneryes indeed10:58
jelkneri really look forward to these morning meetings10:58
jelknerwait, almost time10:58
dcammueLet's move in then10:58
jelknerYesterday i spent the day in professional development for school, today i will be working on getting ready for the first day of school and hopefully work with dcammue and svaye on GnuCash access. No blockers.11:00
thomasboimahYesterday I completed the second issued and   make a push, the code is now ready for review. Today I plan while waiting for Chris to review the code on the PR, to go on Django document to read and practice so that I can meet the goal for the next six month. No blocker.11:00
svayeYesterday I spent a lot of time reading, and I lost track of time and missed my meeting with klarios. Today I will update my learning on my codeberg markdown file and also have a short meeting with jelkner to set a time for bookkeeping meetings. No blockers. 11:00
svayeACTION done11:00
thomasboimahACTION done11:01
jelknerACTION done11:01
dcammueYesterday,  I read the financial accounting book and also booked a free online class for bookkeeping and payroll management from Allison.com. Today,  I plan to continue with both the class and financial accounting book to combine key knowledge 11:01
dcammueACTION done11:01
jelknergabriel_jetro?11:01
jelknerwell i guess gabriel_jetro is not planning on participating?11:02
jelknerif not, we should close the stand up meeting11:03
gabriel_jetroyesterday I read on django and how to break down project into different app, I did not work on the issue that was propose because i give mulbah a call and he said he was waiting for review, I plan on working todayk11:03
mulbahGood morning to all11:03
jelknerthanks gabriel_jetro 11:03
jelknerok, meeting over11:03
mulbahSorry I'm late 11:03
jelknerlet me just say that this is becoming more and more joyful for me as we continue to develop11:04
jelknerit's truly a "dream come true" for me11:04
jelknerwe are growing our skills and our power together11:04
jelkneri love hearing from dcammue that he found a free online course on bookkeeping and that he's checking it out11:05
mulbahYesterday I read of Django and adding some future to the project and awaiting Cjones response to the code I push11:05
jelkneras all our skills grow, we can more effectively share resources, and help each other learn even faster11:05
jelkneri look forward to hearing how you like the course dcammue 11:05
jelknerthomasboimah, gabriel_jetro and mulbah, i have a request11:06
mulbahokay11:06
jelkneri want you to start investigating test driven development (TDD)11:06
jelknerthe time will come soon when i will hire you 3 to write code11:06
jelknerand as i did with Adrian and Stefan several years ago11:06
jelkneri will tell you that i won't pay for code that doesn't have unit tests with it11:07
jelknerdoing that with them really helped them learn to write like pros11:07
jelknerand i'm confident it will do the same for you11:07
jelkneryou have so many different things to learn now11:07
jelkneri'm not expecting tests on the ToDo app11:08
jelknerbut you should start reading about TDD so that you understand what it is and can begin to think about how you would do it11:08
jelknerbtw., now that we are back in school, cjones and i will be across the hall from each other11:09
jelknerso it will be very easy for me to check-in with him11:09
jelknermr. zawolo is in the trailer next to us11:09
jelknerwhich is only about a minute and a half walk from here11:09
jelknerso seeing him each morning will be easy too11:10
jelknerthat will help our communication as we move into our co-op launch this Fall11:10
jelknerthomasboimah, do you feel like you have a good sense of the plan that SJC will be using to support NOVA and Jetro?11:11
thomasboimahNo11:11
jelknerAh11:11
jelknerWe need to work on that together then11:11
jelknerlet me give it to you a bit at a time, so you can digest it better11:12
jelkner;-)11:12
thomasboimahOkay11:12
jelknerIt looks like on Saturday, September 13, SJC will receive $30K that it will use to help NOVA and Jetro become viable businesses11:12
jelknerNOVA will be taking the lead11:13
jelknerbut we will expect Jetro to move forward quickly and work to make itself ready to do professional work11:13
jelknerOn the NOVA side, we are looking at a contract with Next System to do a Decidim deployment11:14
jelknerSJC itself will fund a Decidim deployment for NOVA SEN11:14
jelknerThe Northern Virginia local group of the Virginia Solidarity Economy Network11:14
jelknerVASEN11:14
jelknerWe are subcontracting with Octree11:15
jelknerfor this work11:15
thomasboimahNice!!11:16
jelknerthomasboimah, you should take a few minutes to look over the Octree website: https://en.octree.ch/11:16
jelknerit is important to know the players if you want to follow this game ;-)11:16
svayejelkner: this is what you explained yesterday right?11:16
thomasboimahSure11:16
jelkneryes svaye 11:16
thomasboimah:-)11:16
jelknerso we now have an experience organization in Switzerland working directly with us11:17
jelknerso we will learn from them11:17
jelknerwe're also looking into some other possible work opportunities, but i'll leave that for another time11:17
jelkneron the NOVA dev team we have Tony first11:18
jelknerhe and Kei are actually the only two legal worker / owners of NOVA Web at this point11:18
jelkneri am not a worker / owner11:18
jelknerbut i am the registered agent11:18
jelknerand all three of us are signers on the bank accout11:18
jelkneraccount11:18
jelknerand we make decisions together11:19
jelknerbut we are also working with James O'Connor and Edzon Quinteros (aka zOnny)11:19
jelknerok, let me talk about SJC's (by which I mean mine at this point) plan for Jetro Web11:20
jelkneri want to use some of SJC11:20
jelknerresources to hire Jetro to develop Django apps11:20
jelkneruntil you are good enough to be able to market your skills to others11:20
jelknerwe'll start with the ToDo app11:21
jelknerand then perhaps ask you to finish the reservation systems for Cosmetology and Culinary that we started last Spring11:21
jelkneri am expecting that by the time we reach our Django class this Spring11:22
jelkneryou 3 will be mentors, not students!11:22
jelknerdo you think you can do that?11:22
mkollehsure we can jeff11:22
jelknerthomasboimah, gabriel_jetro?11:23
gabriel_jetro+111:23
jelknerthomasboimah?11:23
thomasboimah,+111:23
thomasboimah+111:23
thomasboimah,+111:23
jelknerlol11:23
jelknerexcellent, that's the spirit!11:24
jelknerok that's all i have for today11:24
jelkneranything else before i work with dcammue and svaye on GnuCash?11:24
dcammueYes please email us the credentials 11:24
jelkneryes dcammue, let me do that now11:25
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thomasboimahACTION -111:25
svayejelkner: my computer is off right now, I was working on it and I don't have current.  dcammue can test it then I will test it later when my computer is on and email you.11:26
dcammueOkay svaye 11:26
dcammueOkay I saw it11:27
jelknerdcammue, just sent you and email with the title "Here"11:27
jelknerlet me know if you can connect11:27
dcammueDid you tried to login as both users?11:27
jelkneri gave you access to the sjcompute and jetroweb data bases11:27
jelkneri did11:27
dcammueOkay thanks 11:28
jelknerbut start with yourself11:28
dcammueI will definitely get started 11:28
jelknertry now11:28
jelknerand let me know11:28
thomasboimahCan I get access too jelkner in case of technical issue11:28
jelknerahh, thomasboimah 11:28
jelknerwe have a different plan for you11:28
thomasboimahJust a suggestion11:28
jelknerlol11:28
dcammueNot right now jelkner. I will email you when I am done11:28
jelknerwe want to give you admin access on the server11:28
jelknerthomasboimah, 11:28
jelknerso that you can give yourself access!11:29
thomasboimahOK11:29
jelknersince you are taking database next term, yes?11:29
thomasboimah,+111:29
jelknerwhen does the term start?11:29
thomasboimah I think by next month 11:30
jelknerthomasboimah, give me a few minutes11:30
thomasboimahThe beginning11:30
svayeSeptember 4th11:30
jelknerthanks!11:30
gabriel_jetroI think it'll be weeks from now11:30
jelknerthomasboimah, i want you to send me the resources you will be using11:30
jelknerwhich textbook, etc.11:30
thomasboimahOK11:30
jelknerthat will help cjones and i give you real world practice with what you are learning in class11:31
jelknerit will help cjones think about our Database class here too11:31
thomasboimahAlright11:32
jelknerthomasboimah, give me until tomorrow to setup shell access for you11:33
jelkneri can't access it from school11:34
thomasboimahOK sir!11:34
jelknersince we are restricting remote login to ssh, and i didn't copy my public key from my school computer ;-)11:34
jelkneri will need your public key thomasboimah 11:34
jelknerbut we can set that up tomorrow11:34
thomasboimahOK11:35
jelknerdcammue, any luck?11:35
jelknerACTION waits for dcammue to reply...11:36
jelknerokie dokie, i'll follow up with dcammue again tomorrow11:36
jelknerthomasboimah, gabriel_jetro mkolleh, read about TDD!11:37
jelknersee y11:37
jelknery'all tomorrow11:37
thomasboimahYes Sir!11:37
mkollehOkay jeff11:37
mkollehHave a nice day 11:37
jelkneryou too!11:37
svayeHave a wonderful day jelkner 11:37
jelkneryou too svaye 11:37
jelknerACTION logs off until tomorrow11:37
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dcammueI am not around my computer Jeff 11:37
dcammueOpps11:37
svayeHave a wonderful day everyone 11:38
dcammueYou too11:38
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