IRC log of #jetrowebdev for Thursday, 2026-05-14

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resldcammue: Good morning!12:28
dcammuehi resl 12:30
dcammuehow are you12:30
resldcammue: doing okay here12:31
dcammuegreat resl 12:32
dcammuei am also the same here!12:32
resldcammue: Okay, that is good :) 12:33
reslI want to ask you to help me fix something on the novawebdev site... I know the more important thing is that we meet to get accounting work done, but would you mind if right now I just bug you to help me with this site update?12:33
resldcammue: Thomas helped me with it yesterday but there is one thing to fix still and if you have a minute, we can probably do it. 12:35
reslI also want to check if you are already on Signal, or if you'd mind installing that on your phone and laptop like Thomas did yesterday. Do you have a personal laptop?12:35
dcammuethe novaweb site is on libreorganize and i don't have access to it12:35
dcammuesorry cant help12:36
resldcammue: Okay, no problem.12:36
resldcammue: Do you have time to install Signal on your phone and laptop if you have your own laptop? I will be very grateful12:36
dcammueokay12:36
dcammuelet me get it then12:36
resldcammue: Okay, take your time! Thank you so much12:37
dcammueresl, 12:37
resldcammue: yes?12:37
dcammuehow do i get that12:37
dcammuefrom a site12:37
dcammueor just install it from the terminal12:37
resldcammue: If you use android phone, you can find it in the app store (I use F-Droid or Aurora store). You need to start with the phone app. Then you can install the desktop app on your computer.12:38
dcammueso from the phone before installing it on the desktop?12:40
resldcammue: yes12:40
dcammueon f-droid, i see signal generator and and sunrise signal12:42
reslIt is a popular enough FOSS app that you will find it in the regular app store12:43
resldcammue: Sorry. Check the regular app store. I think it will be there12:45
dcammueokay12:48
dcammuefew steps more resl. please wait12:53
resldcammue: take your time - thank you so much12:54
dcammueresl, 13:22
resldcammue: yep?13:23
dcammuehttps://signal.link/call/#key=kncc-xtct-bnfc-xbsk-gmps-btdc-xzzs-rfqk13:23
reslHaha I'm in the call now. But don't see you yet. You got it on your phone, then?13:23
resldcammue: You can send me a message request in Signal by searching for me by username resl.1713:24
dcammueokay13:25
resldcammue: But installing the Desktop app will be especially helpful if you have not done that yet13:25
dcammuebut that was a call link13:25
dcammuei am done with both installations resl 13:25
resldcammue: That way you can type on your computer and have video calls where you can share your screen. The connection with Signal is usually better than Jitsi, and Signal can use WiFi instead of data so is often better for calls than other phone apps.13:25
resldcammue: Okay, nice!13:26
reslIf you are comfortable sharing your phone number with me here in IRC or emailing it to me, I can search for you too and send you a message request there. 13:26
resldcammue: I was able to join that call, but I think we have to first connect in Signal via message request before we will be connected in a call.13:28
dcammue+23177518114213:28
resldcammue: Okay, cool. Now you will see a message request from me. You can accept it13:29
dcammuei did search for you but you are not on my contact list so i can not get you on signal13:29
reslAh yeah! Ok, once you accept my message request, I will text you my phone number. Then you can add that number to your contacts just in case.13:30
resldcammue: Nice. We're in!13:30
dcammue+1!13:31
resldcammue: If you have a minute, want to have a quick signal video call so we can share our screens if needed and maybe we can even start going through some accounting stuff? Perhaps we want to say we meet for 30 minutes and then I will get back to other work and let you get back to other work? 13:32
dcammueokay13:33
dcammuelet's move in then13:33
reslOk. I'll start the video call in Signal.13:33
zOnnyHello World14:09
reslzOnny: Yo!14:11
zOnnyresl: Hey14:12
zOnnyresl: What is the issue with Novawebdev?14:12
reslzOnny: If you have a minute, can you make a quick edit to the nwd site? Thomas made some progress on it yesterday, but the html needs to change so the images at the bottom of the home page are all displayed in one row.14:12
reslzOnny: Is that the issue you're asking about?14:13
zOnnyresl: wow14:13
reslzOnny: Instead of 3 columns there, we now want 4. Thomas asked me to update the cities cause no one is in Santa Ana anymore, and we have Pittsburgh and Harpers Ferry too now14:14
zOnnyresl: the locations looks great14:14
reslzOnny: Ah that is nice to hear :)14:14
zOnnyresl: I see 4 columns14:14
reslzOnny: But the html to make them appear all in one row - that is easy to do, I think, but I don't want to try to do it yet because I am still new to git 14:14
reslzOnny: Oh! It is updated!14:15
reslzOnny: Wow! I wonder when that was fixed between last night and now. Sweet!14:15
zOnnyresl: It was done already14:15
zOnnyresl: you just have to raise the issue and then it will get fix :)14:16
reslzOnny: Honestly, the little white outline over the skylines doesn't match up perfectly yet so I am going to obsess and send an email with whatever image(s) needs to be replaced with a slight edited one or ones but cool - I am also happy with how it looks for now14:17
reslzOnny: the outline mismatch is my bad and I can fix it - but to make the change to the site after I send whichever edited image(s), I'll send an email with the files, and then an issue so you or thomas can do the update14:18
zOnnysound good 14:18
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jelknerdcammue: what happened yesterday?14:28
jelkneryou missed our meeting14:29
thomasboimahHello comrade..14:34
dcammuehi14:35
dcammuei had a hit on my eye jelkner 14:35
dcammueso i could not attend the meet 14:35
dcammuebecause of the pain14:35
dcammuesorry for the let down! :-()14:36
dcammuethomasboimah, 14:36
dcammuecan i try it now14:36
thomasboimahyes14:36
dcammuewebschool.sjcompute.org; host-name right?14:37
dcammuethomasboimah, 14:37
thomasboimahyes14:38
dcammueokay, i am on it14:38
dcammuethanks14:38
thomasboimahsure14:40
thomasboimahplease let me know when you are in.14:40
dcammueyes, bro14:40
dcammuei am in14:41
dcammuethanks so much14:41
dcammueresl: are you here?14:41
thomasboimahresl, I fixed the image on the site you saw it?14:42
jelknerdcammue: sorry to hear about your eye trouble, but we need to talk about how to make Jetro more resilient14:48
jelknerif we miss meetings14:48
jelknerthings don't move forward14:48
jelknerarya wanted to talk about the NGO14:48
jelknerthat's why i asked you to come14:48
jelknerwhen you can't make it14:48
jelknerwe need to have someone else show14:49
jelknerotherwise14:49
jelknerthings hardly ever move14:49
jelknerand we go out of business14:49
jelknersuccess is going to require most of us working in coordination most of the time14:50
jelknerso we make the passes we need to make at the right time, and score goals!14:50
jelknerright?14:50
jelknerthe teams that don't coordinate14:50
dcammue+114:50
jelknerloose14:50
jelknersimple as that14:50
dcammue+114:50
jelknerthey get chewed up and spit out by the teams that do14:50
jelkneri need to respond to aray's email14:51
jelkneri don't want to quash her initiative14:51
jelknerbut she is asking me to send out emails when we aren't ready14:51
dcammuei did see her mail. it is wonderful step she is taking14:52
jelknerwell yes, but if we aren't ready14:52
jelknerand can't coordinate14:52
jelknerit will end up being demoralizing14:52
dcammuei was really trilled by her move14:52
jelkneri need to talk to her one-on-one about that14:52
dcammuewe have to coordinate with her ASAP14:52
jelknerwe can't14:52
jelknerwe aren't ready14:53
jelkneri'm telling you i will be hard pressed just to get ready for my visit14:53
jelkneri need to do so many things14:53
jelkneri have a doctor's visit the week after next for my vacines14:53
jelkneri need to get the equipment ready14:54
jelkneri need to coordinate travel14:54
dcammuewow, that14:54
dcammuethat's a lots14:54
jelkneri don't have the bandwidth to manage a campaing14:54
jelknerthere is always a lot my dear friend14:54
jelknerso much to do14:54
jelkneri'm focusing on trying to reach out to our network to begin looking for work14:55
jelknerfinding work is the top priority14:55
jelkneragain, we aren't quite ready14:55
jelknerbut time is running out14:55
jelknerso we need to get ready ASAP14:55
jelknerdo you think freena and janet will be ready to pass the web certification soon?14:56
jelknerwe need SMART goals14:56
jelknerSpecific, Measurable, Achievable, Relevant, Time-bound14:57
dcammueyes, i am sure jelkner 14:57
dcammuethey will pass14:57
jelknerlet me know when the first one is ready to go14:57
jelknerand i will purchase the voucher for that one person14:57
jelknerchoose your champion14:57
dcammueokay14:58
jelknerif they pass14:58
jelkneri'll spring for the other one14:58
jelknerif they don't14:58
jelkneri'm not going to take a chance throwing away money twice14:58
dcammueyou break!14:58
dcammuesure14:58
jelknerso this is a test of the ability of the 3 of you14:58
jelknerto evaluate effectively where you are relative to the goal of passing the cert14:59
jelkneryou 3 decide who goes first14:59
jelkneragain, choose your champion14:59
jelknerthomasboimah: can you send us the portfolio work of the prospective designers?15:00
jelknerwe can help you talk a look at it15:00
resldcammue: I'm here, sorry15:00
thomasboimahYeah, it was the photo of resl and shune15:00
reslthomasboimah: thank you for pinging me in Signal. I'm back15:00
thomasboimahI asking them to design like the one on the nwd site15:00
jelknerthomasboimah: what other work do they have?15:01
thomasboimahThat was the only task i give him15:01
jelknerah, i'm glad we are talking15:01
thomasboimahBut they do have their person work15:01
jelknerdesigners and artists keep a portfolio of their work15:01
thomasboimahon it was do with photoshop15:01
jelknerthat's how they get jobs15:01
jelkneri'm interested in the stuff they did for themselves15:02
jelknernot for others15:02
thomasboimahBut it was done with photoshop15:02
jelkneri want to know what they are excited about personally15:02
jelknerartists like to make art.  some of them say they *need* to make art15:02
jelknerthey just can't help it15:02
thomasboimahOkay i will email them to send their personal work15:03
jelknersomething inside makes them want to do it15:03
jelknerwe want to see that work15:03
jelknerit will tell us a lot about who they are and what motivates them15:03
jelknerhere's a nice biblical quote that is relevant here:15:04
jelknerhttps://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%207:15-20&version=NKJV15:04
jelkner"You Will Know Them by Their Fruits"15:04
jelknerok, dcammue, we need to talk about the schedule next week15:05
thomasboimahyeah, Matthew 7:15-2015:05
dcammueokay15:05
dcammueokay jelkner 15:05
thomasboimahgot that, I will email them to send their work15:05
jelknerThis class will meet Thursday and Friday at the regular time15:06
jelknernext week15:06
jelknerthe week after that, it meets only on Friday15:07
jelknerplease mark that down15:07
jelkneri won't be here next Friday15:07
jelkneri'll be at the DNOVA Council meeting15:07
jelknerbut i'll tell Kendyl she should meet with you as usual15:09
jelkneri can do a pull request in the morning, as usual15:09
dcammueokay jelkner 15:09
dcammuecopy15:10
jelknerok, let me get back to work15:10
jelknerbtw. our website is looking *great*!15:12
jelknerby "our" i mean NOVA Web here15:12
jelkneri need to talk with a designer about the SJC website15:13
jelkneri basically like it15:14
jelknerbut it looks too dark15:14
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jelkneri think the fonts need to be a bit larger and a bit ligher15:14
jelknerlighter15:14
jelknerso there is more contrast between the text and the background15:14
jelkneri'm not a designer15:14
jelknerbut that's what it looks like to me15:15
jelknerdcammue: what happened to thomas?15:16
dcammuenothing jelkner 15:16
jelkneri mean he was here15:16
jelknerbut now he's gone15:16
jelkneri know this is supposed to be his day off15:16
jelknerhold on15:16
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jelknerthomasboimah: i wanted to check on on the ircbot work15:18
jelknerwhere should i file the issues we discussed?15:18
thomasboimahgitlab15:18
jelknerACTION goes to file issues15:18
jelknerhello freena15:24
jelkner!activatemeeting Wednesday Jetro Stand-up Meeting15:25
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freenaHello jelkner, how are you today?15:27
jelkneri am *so busy* freena, how about you?15:32
jelknerthomasboimah: two issues filed15:32
jelknerlet me know if i did them properly15:32
thomasboimahyeah i see it15:32
thomasboimahI am on it now15:32
jelknerYou rock thomasboimah!15:32
freenaI have a little headache but just took medicine.15:33
reslfreena: hey, I hope your headache goes away soon. I have to take a nap also when I get a headache. Medicine and a nap. I hope you can take a nap too15:35
dcammuesorry to hear that freena 15:35
dcammuehope you get well soon15:35
dcammuefreena, 15:36
freenaOkay resl, thanks. I will take a nap later. 15:36
dcammuehow soon do you think you are confident to take the WDE test?15:36
freenaI can write the test, the first  week in June dcammue 15:37
freenaHi kthomas 15:40
kthomashello15:40
jelknerhi all15:43
freenaHi jelkner 15:43
jkollieHi jelkner 15:43
jelknerlet's talk schedule for a minute15:45
jelknernext 2 weeks are strange15:45
freenaWhat do you mean jelkner ?15:45
jkollieStrange?15:46
kthomastheres sols next week15:46
jelknerapologies jkollie 15:46
jelkneri'm trying to get the correct info15:46
jelknerso i can share it clearly15:46
jelknernext week we meet only twice: Thursday and Friday, at this time15:47
jelknerthe following week we meet only once15:47
jelkneron Friday15:47
jelknerso please mark your calendars15:47
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jkollieOkay 15:47
jkollieAlright jelkner 15:47
jelknerweb class will meet: May 21, 22, 2915:48
jelknerand then June 2, 4, 8, and 1015:48
jelkneri think june 12 will be our last day15:49
jelkneri'll update you as i get more information15:49
jelknerok, i don't want to take up more of your class15:49
freenaOh okay15:49
jelknerbut i wanted to let you know15:49
freenaThanks jelkner 15:49
jelknergoal should be to finish the web certification *before* the last day!15:50
jelknerACTION done15:50
jkollieThanks for the info jelkner 15:50
jelknerhello smohamud 15:52
dcammuehello jkollie, kthomas ans freena 15:54
kthomashello15:55
dcammuethanks for coming today15:55
dcammueand welcome back to our class15:55
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dcammueso now our old link for the class is working15:55
dcammueso you can view the lesson from there15:56
dcammueand get to work15:56
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jkollieThat's good15:56
dcammuehttps://ict.gracehopper.center/s26/courses/php/calendar/15:57
dcammueafter reading the lesson, please let me know15:58
freenaDone16:01
jkollieSame here 16:01
dcammuekthomas?16:03
dcammueso you need to enroll in the new course; WDE part 2 CSS Essential16:03
jelknershe stepped out16:03
jelkneri'll let her know you have a question for her when she returns16:04
dcammuejust click the link in the lesson, and select the css essential16:04
dcammueokay16:04
dcammuethanks jelkner 16:04
freenaAlright 16:04
dcammueif you are done enrolling, let me know16:05
jkollieI'm done 16:05
dcammuecool jkollie 16:05
kthomashello im sorry for not saying anything but im back now16:07
kthomaslet me read the lesson16:07
kthomasok im done16:08
freenaI'm done16:10
dcammueokay, thanks everyone 16:10
dcammuefor enrolling in16:10
dcammuelet have a brief conversation on CSS16:11
dcammuewhat this really mean to us in web development16:11
dcammueor as a web developers16:11
dcammueso, i could just say, we are tired of seeing our web pages bare16:12
dcammueno colors, no interesting stuff to look at16:13
dcammuewe just keep seeing white page and a block  writing all over the place16:14
dcammueso we had someone thinking of how to make our web page or pages look nice and colorful16:15
dcammueand he is  Tim Berners-Lee16:15
dcammueIn 1994, he introduced the concept of "HTML Plus16:16
dcammueaiming to enhance document appearance16:16
dcammueand a spark that ignited the journey of CSS16:17
dcammuethis was great thinking for him16:17
dcammueand yet, we were still in need of better style16:18
dcammueand in 1996, Håkon Wium Lie and Bert Bos 16:18
dcammueintroduced the CSS16:18
dcammueCascading Style Sheet16:19
dcammuethis was a great move in 1996 then16:19
dcammueand now we are still using the product of their work16:20
dcammuewho knows, kthomas or freena may want to unveiled her part of special style :-)16:22
dcammueso since they brought such a great tool for our web developers, 16:23
dcammuewe want to know why, and what are the important use of this tool16:23
dcammuewhy we learn CSS?16:24
kthomasbecause it makes our web pages appear more dynamic16:25
freenaWe learn css you make your web page or pages beautiful16:25
jkollieIt make is style our webpages the way we want16:26
jkollie*Us*16:26
dcammuegreat16:26
dcammueso i want to stop here so you guys can read on the next few pages16:27
freenaOkay16:28
dcammueif any question, please let know16:28
jkollieAlright 16:28
freenaOkay16:28
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kthomasbye everyone16:55
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jelknerdcammue: still here?17:04
jelknerthomasboimah: are you here?17:06
jelknerjkollie: or you?17:06
jelknerin case you see this later, i messed up17:07
jelknerwe meet next wednesday and friday17:08
jelknernot next thursday and friday17:08
jelkneri'll follow up with an email17:08
jelknerzOnny: how are you my friend?17:08
jelkneri'm about to log out17:08
zOnnyjelkner: all good17:08
jelknerbut i'll see you in the RABT meeting if you can make it17:08
jelknerbye for now17:08
zOnnyjelkner: today?17:08
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zOnnyWhere are we?17:09
thomasboimahyes17:09
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zOnnythomasboimah: Did you were able to access?17:19
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