| jelkner | Hello thomasboimah, dcammue, jkollie and svaye | 11:51 |
|---|---|---|
| svaye | Good morning jelkner | 11:51 |
| Gabriel | Greetings jelkner, happy New year | 11:51 |
| jelkner | I was deeply saddened by the news of Freena's father | 11:52 |
| jelkner | i had the pleasure of meeting him when i was there 4 years ago | 11:52 |
| jelkner | he struck me as a wonderful man | 11:52 |
| jelkner | please do all you can to support Freena in this difficult time | 11:53 |
| jkollie | Is sad that he's now late | 11:53 |
| svaye | We plan to pay her a visit today after the meeting | 11:53 |
| jelkner | glad to hear that, svaye | 11:53 |
| thomasboimah | Hello jelkner | 11:55 |
| thomasboimah | We are at the office now jelkner | 11:55 |
| thomasboimah | Everyone | 11:55 |
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| thomasboimah | On Wednesday, I synced the Business Tracker code from the NWD Linode server to my local environment with its live data, confirmed that everything was working properly, and pushed the changes to the branch. I held a meeting with Mulbah and Gabriel to understand their blockers, and they explained their reasons. I will leave it to Svaye and Dcammue to provide a better update on how the meeting went and the possible solutions to bring them on board. | 12:00 |
| thomasboimah | Today, I will be going with the team to Freena’s house to sympathize with her. When I return, I will clone the project on the MayFirst server to complete the migration. No blockers. | 12:00 |
| dcammue | Yesterday, i attended my UL classes, and today, svaye and dcammue have a meeting to discuss how they can start working for SECOSOL, NOVAWEB, AND SJC as a bookkeepers with a salary value of $400 each per month. | 12:00 |
| svaye_ | We had a very productive meeting this morning, gabriel and mulbah express that they were inactive due to limited funds, but with the availability of the office space they have agreed to be active with the team from now on. Jetroweb also agreed to compensate gabriel and mulbah to get them on board. No blockers | 12:00 |
| dcammue | ACTION done | 12:00 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION done | 12:00 |
| svaye_ | ACTION done | 12:00 |
| jkollie_ | yesterday I check in NOVASEN and the server error has been fixed, I now have admin access in NOVASEN so I went through the Decidim awesome(live chat) kei was telling me about that the last time, I also saw jelkner mail inviting me to the sjc board. Today I'll work on how the Decidim awesome allow us to use telegram for live chat. No blocker | 12:00 |
| jelkner | Yesterday i worked on preparation for the SJC board meeting, SE Business Club meeting, and Decidim - Digital Commons Planning Call. The last two meetings are today (at the same time :-( I also met with Mr. Zawolo and had class with Kara and Josh. Today i'll work with Sahnun to figure out how we can cover two meetings at the same time. | 12:00 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 12:00 |
| dcammue | jelkner: you are the last today, you were eating cole rice? | 12:01 |
| dcammue | :-) | 12:01 |
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| jelkner | lol | 12:01 |
| Gabriel | Lol | 12:01 |
| jelkner | no, but i'm trying to do 3 things at once | 12:01 |
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| jelkner | ok, i only have a few minutes | 12:01 |
| jelkner | and i need answers to several questions | 12:01 |
| jelkner | 1st, you said you are in the office now, yes? | 12:02 |
| Gabriel | +1 | 12:02 |
| thomasboimah | +1 | 12:02 |
| svaye_ | Yes\ | 12:02 |
| jelkner | what happened at your meeting yesterday? | 12:02 |
| jkollie_ | +1 | 12:02 |
| thomasboimah | We have the meeting | 12:02 |
| dcammue | +1 | 12:02 |
| svaye_ | We had the meeting this morning | 12:02 |
| thomasboimah | Please read the update | 12:02 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah: your update says to rely on svaye_ and dcammue | 12:03 |
| thomasboimah | Yes and then mention it in their update | 12:03 |
| svaye_ | jelkner, I gave the update of the meeting | 12:03 |
| jelkner | let's have a talk about how to approach this | 12:03 |
| jelkner | you really need to start thinking about your *deliverables*! | 12:03 |
| jelkner | if you start out thinking about a monthly rate, you may not get very far | 12:04 |
| jelkner | yes, bringing in enough revenue to pay $400 per month is a great goal | 12:04 |
| jelkner | but what product or service will you render to bring in the revenue? | 12:04 |
| jelkner | that's what we need to figure out, and soon! | 12:05 |
| jelkner | This has been a long term challenge for me, and it's time you all understand the challenge | 12:05 |
| jelkner | It's an example of a "chicken or egg problem" | 12:05 |
| jelkner | Which comes first, the chicken or the egg? | 12:06 |
| jelkner | Where do eggs, come from? Chickens. | 12:06 |
| svaye_ | The business team( svaye_ and dcammue ) will be offering bookkeeping, invoicing and billing for the organizations that need it jelkner | 12:06 |
| jelkner | Where do chickens come from? Eggs! | 12:06 |
| jelkner | svaye_: ok, so you need to start listing what you will do, and what you will charge for it. | 12:06 |
| jelkner | For Gabriel and Mulbah, I have work I can pay for (so I can be one of your early customers) | 12:07 |
| jelkner | but you have to be ready to give me value | 12:07 |
| Gabriel | +1 | 12:07 |
| jelkner | i don't think you're there yet | 12:07 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah is | 12:07 |
| jelkner | but only thomasboimah | 12:07 |
| jelkner | so that's the challenge | 12:07 |
| thomasboimah | jelkner, I am working on that so That Gabriel and Mulbah can be ready too | 12:08 |
| jelkner | Let's talk about the office | 12:08 |
| svaye_ | jelkner, dcammue and I agreed to charge the three organizations $400 a month for all those services | 12:08 |
| jelkner | what services, svaye_? | 12:08 |
| thomasboimah | NOw that we have the office I am going to be working closely with Gabriel and Mulbah | 12:08 |
| dcammue | The bookkeeping | 12:08 |
| svaye_ | bookkeeping, invoicing and billing jelkner | 12:08 |
| thomasboimah | Just the same way zOnny is working with me | 12:08 |
| jelkner | a monthly rate is probably not the best way to start svaye_ | 12:09 |
| jelkner | we need an hourly rate | 12:09 |
| dcammue | You said you want us to do bookkeeping for sjc, novaweb, and secosol | 12:09 |
| thomasboimah | And i am happy that they mention in our meeting that they are ready to give more time to Jetro now | 12:09 |
| jelkner | back to the office | 12:09 |
| dcammue | You come up with the best way to fo jelkner | 12:09 |
| jelkner | mr. zawolo said he has more time now and will get more involved | 12:09 |
| dcammue | Okay, to the office | 12:10 |
| jelkner | he will help you get supplies (beds, tables, etc.) you need to use the place | 12:10 |
| jelkner | you should be tracking all that in your books | 12:10 |
| dcammue | Yes | 12:10 |
| jelkner | svaye_ and dcammue, i want you to tell me when you are really ready to do bookkeeping | 12:11 |
| jelkner | you should start with your own business | 12:11 |
| dcammue | Yes, now | 12:11 |
| svaye_ | we already started on our books jelkner | 12:11 |
| dcammue | What more do you want me to provide | 12:11 |
| jelkner | i'm dreaming of a day when i get an email from you two saying, "jelkner, we want to show you our Jetro Web books" | 12:11 |
| jelkner | and i look at them and say "Wow, that's impressive!!" | 12:12 |
| jelkner | I want to hire you two. You rock! | 12:12 |
| jelkner | When you can do that, you will earn the trust of others. | 12:12 |
| jelkner | And be ready to generate lots of business. | 12:12 |
| thomasboimah | jelkner, Mulbah and Gabriel said that they are interested in work with you student on the ANCC webiste | 12:13 |
| jelkner | I haven't seen anything like that yet. | 12:13 |
| thomasboimah | *working* | 12:13 |
| jelkner | ah, great, back to the dev team | 12:13 |
| dcammue | jelkner: | 12:13 |
| jelkner | let's talk about the dev team (5 more minutes i have to go) | 12:13 |
| jelkner | now that you have an office | 12:13 |
| thomasboimah | Yes and that is going to be our first start to bring them on board | 12:13 |
| dcammue | Please check you gnucash database | 12:13 |
| jelkner | i want to see you on irc when Kara, Josh and Ben are in class. | 12:14 |
| dcammue | For novweb and sjc | 12:14 |
| dcammue | And jetro as well | 12:14 |
| jelkner | i want to see you talking with them about their learning process | 12:14 |
| jelkner | they are advanced students, who know how to learn independently | 12:14 |
| jelkner | kara came up with the idea that she wanted to make her own ToDo app | 12:14 |
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| jelkner | and Josh is doing the same | 12:15 |
| jelkner | oops, we lost thomasboihmah | 12:15 |
| jelkner | that's why we need an office with reliable bandwidth | 12:15 |
| jelkner | so that y'all don't drop out so frequently | 12:15 |
| jelkner | if you notice, i hardly ever drop out | 12:16 |
| jelkner | i'm on a linux workstation using hexchat | 12:16 |
| jelkner | it just works | 12:16 |
| jelkner | reliably | 12:16 |
| jelkner | you will need to have as reliable Internet as you can | 12:16 |
| jelkner | you can't run a tech business with bad Internet | 12:17 |
| jelkner | just won't work | 12:17 |
| Gabriel | Sure | 12:17 |
| jelkner | Anyway, i expect to see at least one of the devs tomorrow during our Django class | 12:17 |
| dcammue | Yes, starlink is the best | 12:17 |
| jelkner | then we should get starlink | 12:18 |
| jelkner | if we get jkollie_ on the SJC board | 12:18 |
| jelkner | she will need to attend Jitsi meetings | 12:18 |
| jelkner | again, we'll need the connection to work | 12:18 |
| jelkner | we don't have time to play with bad connections | 12:18 |
| jelkner | we have work to do | 12:18 |
| jkollie_ | that's right jelkner | 12:19 |
| jelkner | Gabriel, thomasboimah, i'll be very disappointed if one of you (or Mulbah) isn't on irc when Kara, Josh and Ben are here tomorrow | 12:19 |
| jelkner | we will be blocking on you if you aren't here | 12:19 |
| jelkner | dcammue, svaye_ | 12:19 |
| dcammue | Yes jelkner | 12:20 |
| jelkner | we have a SE Business Club meeting today | 12:20 |
| thomasboimah | I will be here jelkner. I was here yesterday and i have convo. with them | 12:20 |
| dcammue | Yes | 12:20 |
| jelkner | again, if you aren't there, we will be blocking on you | 12:20 |
| Gabriel | Okay jelkner | 12:20 |
| svaye_ | jelkner | 12:20 |
| jelkner | i don't see how you'll be able to charge for bookkeeping services if you don't take the time to work with devesh to see what needs to be done | 12:20 |
| jelkner | and today is the time | 12:20 |
| Gabriel | Okay jelkner | 12:21 |
| jelkner | we meet only every other week on wednesdays | 12:21 |
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| jelkner | if you aren't there, it will be two weeks before you get another opportunity | 12:21 |
| dcammue | Okay | 12:21 |
| jelkner | they are volunteers | 12:21 |
| dcammue | Tonight | 12:21 |
| jelkner | they are students working for free | 12:21 |
| jelkner | we need to show up when they are available | 12:21 |
| jelkner | understand? | 12:21 |
| dcammue | +1 | 12:21 |
| svaye_ | +1 | 12:21 |
| jelkner | great | 12:22 |
| jelkner | ok, let's keep moving forward | 12:22 |
| jelkner | let me know when you feel you are ready to be included in Jistsi meetings | 12:22 |
| dcammue | Can we try the jitsi video tonight | 12:24 |
| dcammue | ? | 12:24 |
| dcammue | Or on friday during the standup meeting? Here at the office | 12:24 |
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| dcammue | Can we try it jelkner | 12:24 |
| jelkner | i'm going to see if Sahnun and Tony can meet with me at 3:30 pm today (20:30 your time) | 12:25 |
| jelkner | can we try then? | 12:25 |
| dcammue | Yes | 12:25 |
| dcammue | Wow | 12:25 |
| dcammue | Lol | 12:25 |
| jelkner | we don't have time to waste playing with tech at the 22:30 meeting | 12:25 |
| dcammue | It will be night for me | 12:26 |
| jelkner | dcammue: this is really important to figure out | 12:26 |
| dcammue | And i will not be here at the office | 12:26 |
| jelkner | if you want to do business in Virginia | 12:26 |
| dcammue | I suggest friday | 12:26 |
| jelkner | you will need to have some of your memebers on a work schedule that matches the business hours here | 12:26 |
| jelkner | i can't do Friday | 12:27 |
| jelkner | let's not rush it | 12:27 |
| jelkner | we really should test it when you are ready | 12:27 |
| jelkner | not now | 12:27 |
| jelkner | here's what i want: | 12:27 |
| jelkner | 1. A Jetro office with a Starlink service installed | 12:27 |
| jelkner | 2. A GNU/Linux workstation running either Firefox or Chromium | 12:28 |
| jelkner | 3. And hexchat | 12:28 |
| jelkner | when you have all that setup | 12:28 |
| jelkner | we can begin testing | 12:28 |
| Gabriel | +1 | 12:28 |
| jelkner | i won't want to mess around with Android phones and junk like that | 12:29 |
| jelkner | it will be unreliable, and i don't have the time | 12:29 |
| jelkner | the workstation will need a webcam and speakers | 12:29 |
| jelkner | so you'll have to choose your hardware carefully | 12:29 |
| jelkner | and then leave it in place | 12:29 |
| jelkner | so you can use it all the time | 12:29 |
| jelkner | we want to get a close to "it just works" as we can | 12:30 |
| jelkner | make sense? | 12:30 |
| dcammue | +1 | 12:30 |
| Gabriel | +1 | 12:30 |
| jkollie_ | +1 | 12:30 |
| thomasboimah | +1 | 12:30 |
| svaye_ | +1 | 12:30 |
| jelkner | cool | 12:30 |
| jelkner | ok, i need to go | 12:30 |
| jelkner | cjones just arrived and i need to talk with him | 12:30 |
| dcammue | Okay | 12:31 |
| jelkner | see you friday morning | 12:31 |
| dcammue | We too leaving for freena visit | 12:31 |
| Gabriel | Ohk jelkner having a wonderful day and a happy New year to you and the family | 12:31 |
| dcammue | You too | 12:31 |
| jelkner | Please send her my deepest condolences. | 12:31 |
| dcammue | Sure | 12:31 |
| jelkner | ACTION Logs off until tomorrow during Djang class. | 12:31 |
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| jelkner | Hello dcammue | 22:12 |
| svaye | dcammue, | 22:33 |
| dcammue | How are you jelkner | 22:36 |
| dcammue | svaye: | 22:37 |
| svaye_ | dcammue, join us in the sjcompute chat room | 22:39 |
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| jelkner_ | svaye_ and dcammue, it's getting late | 23:21 |
| jelkner_ | i don't want to keep you any longer | 23:22 |
| jelkner_ | let me let you tell you what we decided | 23:22 |
| svaye_ | Alright je | 23:22 |
| jelkner_ | and then you can leave | 23:22 |
| jelkner_ | By logging into the bank | 23:22 |
| jelkner_ | you can download all transactions into a CSV file | 23:23 |
| jelkner_ | you'll need to learn what that is, but i can explain it | 23:23 |
| jelkner_ | then you can upload (Ved says you need to do some data cleaning first) | 23:23 |
| jelkner_ | from the CSV to Gnucash | 23:23 |
| jelkner_ | he is going to do that | 23:23 |
| jelkner_ | i was struggling with him a bit | 23:24 |
| jelkner_ | because i don't want him to do things only he knows how to do | 23:24 |
| jelkner_ | since when he graduates | 23:24 |
| jelkner_ | the knowledge will be lost to us | 23:24 |
| jelkner_ | so he promised to document (with screenshots and everything) | 23:24 |
| jelkner_ | the whole process | 23:24 |
| svaye_ | jelkner_, do you mean SECOSOL bank? | 23:24 |
| jelkner_ | *and* arya will ride shotgun | 23:24 |
| jelkner_ | all three banks | 23:25 |
| jelkner_ | SECOSOL, NOVA Web, and SJC | 23:25 |
| jelkner_ | it's the same bank | 23:25 |
| svaye_ | okay | 23:25 |
| jelkner_ | ACFCU | 23:25 |
| jelkner_ | by next year, our goal will be for you to have a VPN setup | 23:25 |
| jelkner_ | so you can log in yourself | 23:25 |
| svaye_ | do we have access to it? | 23:25 |
| jelkner_ | but you won't be able to do that without the VPN | 23:25 |
| jelkner_ | you can't do it from Liberia | 23:26 |
| svaye_ | got it! | 23:26 |
| jelkner_ | so you will need to teleport yourselves to Virginia using the VPN | 23:26 |
| svaye_ | okay | 23:27 |
| jelkner_ | ok, if you want to go now, i just want to thank you for coming! | 23:27 |
| jelkner_ | you two rock! | 23:27 |
| jelkner_ | see you Friday morning | 23:27 |
| svaye_ | You don't have to thank me jelkner_ | 23:27 |
| jelkner_ | i'll see tboihmah tomorrow during our class | 23:27 |
| jelkner_ | sure i do svaye_ | 23:28 |
| jelkner_ | sleep well, comrades | 23:28 |
| svaye_ | Alright jelkner_ Good night | 23:28 |
| svaye_ | ACTION signs off | 23:29 |
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| jelkner_ | anyone need me for anything? | 23:37 |
| jelkner_ | hearning nothing, i will log off... | 23:38 |
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