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| zOnny | Good morning comrades | 10:59 |
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| jelkner | Yesterday i reviewed rachel's draft of the cleaning coop proposal. Today i will be attending the SJC board meeting. No blockers. | 10:59 |
| jelkner | oops | 10:59 |
| jelkner | too early :-( | 10:59 |
| jelkner | Yesterday i reviewed rachel's draft of the cleaning coop proposal. Today i will be attending the SJC board meeting. No blockers. | 11:00 |
| zOnny | Last week, I focused on studying the Sociocracy Primer and understanding how it is implemented in practice. In addition, I worked on updating and improving the Business Tracker (BT) functionality. No blockers. | 11:00 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 11:00 |
| zOnny | ACTION done | 11:00 |
| jelkner | we're waiting for dcammue | 11:00 |
| dcammue | Lol | 11:02 |
| dcammue | I lost the clock | 11:02 |
| jelkner | ACTION can hear our coach saying "Daniel, wake up! The ball went right past you!" ;-) | 11:03 |
| dcammue | On yesterday, I updated the inventory list and add some items at the buttom. Today, I will continue installing the software need on those machines I changed OS on. No blocker | 11:04 |
| dcammue | ACTION done | 11:04 |
| zOnny | sweet | 11:04 |
| dcammue | Good morning folks | 11:04 |
| jelkner | ok, zOnny, dcammue, since we have work to do | 11:04 |
| jelkner | and since thomas isn't here | 11:05 |
| jelkner | let's make this a short meeting and get to it | 11:05 |
| zOnny | jelkner: +1 | 11:05 |
| jelkner | zOnny, i'll call you after the SJC board meeting | 11:05 |
| zOnny | jelkner: ok | 11:05 |
| jelkner | i'm having breakfast with Sahnun at 8:30 am | 11:05 |
| jelkner | so i'll be able update you on both those things | 11:05 |
| zOnny | ACTION I kinda want to join those breakfast meetings | 11:06 |
| jelkner | in the mean time, i may have a lead on a possible small website project for us | 11:06 |
| zOnny | ACTION once awhile | 11:06 |
| jelkner | do you want to today? | 11:06 |
| jelkner | that would be a great idea | 11:06 |
| zOnny | jelkner: next time | 11:06 |
| jelkner | okie dokie | 11:07 |
| zOnny | jelkner: say more | 11:07 |
| zOnny | jelkner: small website? | 11:07 |
| jelkner | hold on... | 11:07 |
| jelkner | https://drive.google.com/file/d/1m8c9SG07sMJwyyaINvz0tdML8pDEOjR6/view | 11:08 |
| dcammue | That's how the site will look like? | 11:09 |
| jelkner | Don't get ahead of yourself dcammue | 11:10 |
| jelkner | this is just a lead | 11:10 |
| jelkner | nothing concrete yet | 11:10 |
| jelkner | let me tell you the story of what happened, so you'll get an idea... | 11:10 |
| zOnny | jelkner: is this a lead to fix persistent inequity in affordable housing, community development, local investment, and community wealth-building? | 11:11 |
| jelkner | yesterday i volunteered with Fred Sissine, my friend and the former mayor of Mount Rainier from when i lived there in the 1990s, and Anthony at the "Friends of the Mount Rainier Library" table. | 11:11 |
| jelkner | at Mount Rainier Day | 11:11 |
| jelkner | Mount Rainier Day is an annual fair that the city holds | 11:12 |
| jelkner | with booths from various community stakeholders and vendors | 11:12 |
| jelkner | a band (the band this year was good) | 11:12 |
| jelkner | they have a parade | 11:12 |
| jelkner | anyway, i got to talk to several people while sitting at our table | 11:13 |
| jelkner | we where handing out free books | 11:13 |
| jelkner | which we do every year | 11:13 |
| jelkner | one of the people who walked up to our table was Stephen Shaff | 11:13 |
| jelkner | https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephen-shaff-2757354/ | 11:14 |
| zOnny | jelkner: I think the idea behind is clear | 11:14 |
| jelkner | +1 | 11:14 |
| zOnny | jelkner: and do we want to be part of it? | 11:14 |
| jelkner | I've known Stephen for more than 30 years | 11:14 |
| jelkner | this is very preliminary zOnny | 11:15 |
| jelkner | i have no idea where this will go, or if it will go anywhere at all | 11:15 |
| jelkner | but let me finish. | 11:15 |
| jelkner | I've known Stephen for more than 30 years | 11:15 |
| jelkner | he lead Mount Rainier's CDC (Community Development Corporation) back when I lived there | 11:16 |
| jelkner | we where chatting when he came to our table | 11:16 |
| jelkner | just catching up | 11:16 |
| jelkner | and i asked him, "So Stephen, what are you up to these days?" | 11:17 |
| jelkner | he said he was involved in "Community wealth building" | 11:17 |
| jelkner | well, my dear friend, you can probably imaging how i reacted when i heard that! ;-) | 11:17 |
| zOnny | ACTION already magined | 11:18 |
| jelkner | dcammue, check out https://www.democracycollaborative.org/community-wealth-building | 11:18 |
| jelkner | so i said, "Community Wealth Building?! That's my whole life these days!" | 11:19 |
| jelkner | "We should talk!" | 11:19 |
| jelkner | he sent me an email | 11:19 |
| jelkner | to which i will reply today | 11:19 |
| jelkner | that's where we are | 11:19 |
| jelkner | just a potential lead at this point | 11:19 |
| jelkner | nothing more | 11:19 |
| jelkner | but a good one | 11:19 |
| jelkner | ok, let me get to work | 11:20 |
| zOnny | jelkner: this could be a great project | 11:20 |
| jelkner | stephen has real business experience | 11:20 |
| jelkner | he could even potentially help us with finding work | 11:21 |
| jelkner | i plan to ask him | 11:21 |
| zOnny | jelkner: indeed | 11:21 |
| dcammue | That's a great talk you guys had jelkner. | 11:21 |
| jelkner | this is my main job with our co-op, dcammue | 11:21 |
| jelkner | i'm old | 11:21 |
| jelkner | i've been around for a loooong time | 11:21 |
| zOnny | jelkner: we can even start with a gitlab page to get the idea out there at no cost | 11:21 |
| jelkner | and i know a lot of people | 11:21 |
| jelkner | my main role is to network | 11:21 |
| jelkner | outreach | 11:22 |
| zOnny | jelkner: we all want affordable housing development, green economic development, and creative/arts community empowerment | 11:22 |
| jelkner | +1 | 11:22 |
| dcammue | Thanks you old man. LOL😂 | 11:22 |
| jelkner | in times of trouble, we are coming together to take care of our needs | 11:22 |
| gabriel_jetro | Greetings jelkner , zOnny and dcammue I'm sorry I got late | 11:23 |
| jelkner | zOnny, you remember way back in the mid 20 teens when you and i first were talking about NOVA Web Development | 11:23 |
| zOnny | jelkner: I'm glad that there are people trying to fix this | 11:23 |
| jelkner | i said i felt confident that this solidarity economy movement would continue to grow | 11:23 |
| zOnny | jelkner: right | 11:24 |
| jelkner | it's impossible to predict exactly how or where or when | 11:24 |
| jelkner | but i knew we were living in a dying empire | 11:24 |
| jelkner | and that is now clear to most people | 11:24 |
| zOnny | jelkner: clear as water | 11:25 |
| jelkner | and that we had broken systems that needed to be fixed | 11:25 |
| jelkner | lol | 11:25 |
| jelkner | we humans are smart monkeys | 11:25 |
| jelkner | and when presented with problems | 11:25 |
| zOnny | jelkner: having a protective alliances that support long-term viability is a great lead | 11:25 |
| jelkner | we eventually focus our attention on fixing them | 11:25 |
| jelkner | +1 | 11:25 |
| jelkner | sweet zOnny | 11:25 |
| jelkner | more later | 11:25 |
| jelkner | let me get some work done | 11:25 |
| dcammue | Okay jelkner thanks for the update | 11:26 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off until the SJC board meeting | 11:26 |
| zOnny | jelkner: thanks for the update | 11:26 |
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| zOnny | jelkner come back | 11:26 |
| zOnny | we are no done yet | 11:26 |
| zOnny | jelkner? | 11:26 |
| gabriel_jetro | He's gone zOnny | 11:27 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: good morning | 11:27 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: dcammue | 11:27 |
| zOnny | Good morning dcammue | 11:27 |
| dcammue | That Oldman has gone zOnny | 11:27 |
| gabriel_jetro | Ya good morning | 11:27 |
| dcammue | Good morning zOnny | 11:28 |
| zOnny | dcammue: lol | 11:28 |
| zOnny | dcammue: gabriel_jetro where are we? | 11:28 |
| dcammue | I am at Jetro office | 11:28 |
| zOnny | dcammue: I see you are fully involve with students during the week | 11:28 |
| dcammue | Yes | 11:29 |
| zOnny | dcammue: Do you like you role? | 11:29 |
| dcammue | I am helping jelkner out | 11:29 |
| gabriel_jetro | There's no update now from my I'm currently blocking on getting my computer function properly | 11:29 |
| gabriel_jetro | zOnny: | 11:29 |
| dcammue | To speed head his class | 11:29 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: got you | 11:29 |
| dcammue | I like the role duo | 11:29 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: not sure how updated you are but I'm building a LibreCMS which is a little-brother from LibreOrganize | 11:31 |
| gabriel_jetro | Sure but me and Thomas were working on the .json file that you said I should explore this week he was guiding me through until I changed my OS and got blocked on my computer system working improperly | 11:31 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: the goal of this is a more CMS focus for our partners with no need of the whole libreorganize as it is | 11:31 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: I hope it gets fixed | 11:31 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: I have a lot to show you and you to learn | 11:32 |
| gabriel_jetro | Ok | 11:33 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: a good computer is most needed | 11:33 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: that is going to be your money maker | 11:33 |
| gabriel_jetro | Yeah I sure when I get home today I'll solved it, it's just normal problem I'm facing on my new Ubuntu set up | 11:34 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: great | 11:34 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: once you start getting more into the projects feel free to ask as much questions you can while we are meeting | 11:34 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: it is important to me you are not stuck on an issue which we both can solve | 11:35 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: sometimes it is all about working together | 11:36 |
| gabriel_jetro | I backup files from my peppermintos and move all the files to my Ubuntu because I don't want to mess things up that's why | 11:36 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: it makes things look easier | 11:36 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: I see | 11:36 |
| gabriel_jetro | If you'll be available I think it'll be best to share with you what I'm facing on my current computer so you can help me solve it today | 11:37 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: your OS issue? | 11:37 |
| gabriel_jetro | Yes, my /home dir can't be located on the system I dunno if it was during the installation | 11:38 |
| zOnny | dcammue: aren't you installing OS as well? | 11:38 |
| gabriel_jetro | He's | 11:39 |
| gabriel_jetro | But for those at the office | 11:39 |
| dcammue | And one thing, zOnny: backing-up or partitioning files on the machine can also reduce the machine free space. So I guess that's what the cause. Because he had two different OS Ubuntu and peppermint before installing new Ubuntu. | 11:39 |
| dcammue | He did it himself zOnny. Not me | 11:39 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: I think you are facing the partitions porblem | 11:40 |
| dcammue | So I am looking at he having three OS. | 11:40 |
| dcammue | That's my thinking | 11:40 |
| dcammue | He might selected the wrong partition | 11:41 |
| gabriel_jetro | Not really dcammue | 11:41 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: /home is often on its own partition. If it wasn't mounted during boot (e.g., bad /etc/fstab entry), it won't appear. | 11:41 |
| gabriel_jetro | I think that's what I'm missing out | 11:42 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: which os you are installing? | 11:42 |
| gabriel_jetro | Ubuntu | 11:42 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: in Ubuntu /home should always exist | 11:43 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: can you check if /home has been mounted? | 11:44 |
| gabriel_jetro | That's where I'm blocking on I dunno why it can't be located on my os | 11:44 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: ~$: mount | grep home | 11:45 |
| zOnny | type that | 11:45 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: also check what partitions exists | 11:45 |
| zOnny | ~$: lsblk | 11:45 |
| gabriel_jetro | Can I share with you the image on WhatsApp that I keep getting when I tried to lunch | 11:46 |
| gabriel_jetro | zOnny: currently I'm in church so I'm not with my computer | 11:46 |
| zOnny | not sure how I can help with an image | 11:46 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: but yes, I can look into it | 11:46 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: and figure it out with you | 11:47 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: like I said, if you type those commands it will help you narrow where the problem is | 11:47 |
| dcammue | gabriel_jetro: I heard you saying when you get home. Are you not home? | 11:48 |
| dcammue | He doesn't has his with him computer zOnny | 11:48 |
| zOnny | lastly check fstab for a /home entry | 11:49 |
| zOnny | dcammue: I see | 11:49 |
| dcammue | Maybe later we can work together | 11:49 |
| gabriel_jetro | I'll follow your instructions and see zOnny | 11:49 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: Is the VScode installation not working? | 11:50 |
| gabriel_jetro | Yes | 11:51 |
| dcammue | zOnny, the computer is not browsing at all. It gets connected to the WiFi but there is a question mark ❓ in the WiFi signal | 11:51 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: this is a permission problem | 11:52 |
| dcammue | So he needs to reinstall OS before doing any internet work | 11:52 |
| zOnny | dcammue: I see | 11:53 |
| zOnny | dcammue: Is the OS not picking up the Wifi? | 11:53 |
| gabriel_jetro | It does connect | 11:53 |
| gabriel_jetro | But can't browse | 11:54 |
| dcammue | It picks it up, but there is a ❓ in the WiFi signal | 11:54 |
| gabriel_jetro | zOnny: it's a system error message | 11:55 |
| gabriel_jetro | That's what I got when I try to work with the system application software | 11:55 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: the ? means your device is connected to a network but has no internet access | 11:56 |
| dcammue | But the fun and interesting part is | 11:56 |
| dcammue | We all browsing on the same WiFi | 11:56 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: can you run this commands? | 11:56 |
| zOnny | ip a | 11:57 |
| dcammue | But his computer refuses | 11:57 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: and try to pinging the router: ~$: ping -c <the router ip> | 11:58 |
| gabriel_jetro | I'm in church right now zOnny in 3hrs we'll dismiss | 11:58 |
| gabriel_jetro | I'm not with my computer right now | 11:59 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: ok | 11:59 |
| gabriel_jetro | Yeah | 11:59 |
| gabriel_jetro | But I'll do when I get home | 11:59 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: alright sorry I cannot be as much help right now | 12:00 |
| gabriel_jetro | I understand | 12:00 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: try also to ping google with the ~$: nslookup google.com | 12:01 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: it will help you figure it out your network issue | 12:01 |
| gabriel_jetro | Okay | 12:02 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: besides that the VScode installation I think it is a permission error | 12:02 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: this happened when you installed Ubuntu but the user wasn't set up properly | 12:03 |
| zOnny | or your /home was on a separate partition that was remounted incorrectly | 12:03 |
| gabriel_jetro | Yeah, it say mkdir /home bla bla ain't writable | 12:04 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: quick fix is to reset ownership of your home directory | 12:05 |
| gabriel_jetro | Yesy /home was on a separate partition which was the peppermintos | 12:05 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: ~$: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /home/$USER | 12:05 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: If that doesn't work, check what's actually wrong | 12:06 |
| gabriel_jetro | Okay | 12:07 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: See who owns your home folder | 12:07 |
| zOnny | ~$: ls -la /home | 12:07 |
| zOnny | See who owns the config directories | 12:07 |
| zOnny | ~$: ls -la ~/.config | 12:07 |
| zOnny | ~$: ls -la ~/.local/share | 12:08 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: If the owner shows root instead of your username, that confirms the permissions issue :) | 12:08 |
| gabriel_jetro | Okay | 12:09 |
| gabriel_jetro | How're you smohamud | 12:10 |
| zOnny | good morning smohamud | 12:11 |
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| smohamud | good morning | 12:24 |
| smohamud | I | 12:24 |
| smohamud | Just about to have bfast with Jeff | 12:24 |
| smohamud | Will be on later | 12:25 |
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| zOnny | alright, almost the whole gang seems to be here | 14:07 |
| zOnny | nvm, I forgot that jitsi meetings also mean irc logings :) | 14:12 |
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| resl | zOnny: haha hello! I am here | 15:04 |
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