IRC log of #novawebdev for Thursday, 2025-12-11

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Penrosianwsup16:48
Penrosianhello16:49
jelknerSo which of you is Penrosian?16:49
PenrosianBenjamin16:49
jelknerah, super16:49
jelkneri assume Websterss is Kara?16:50
jelkneror josuah?16:50
jelknerwho?16:50
Penrosianneither of them are in16:50
jelknerah16:50
jelknerPenrosian: please help them fix that!16:50
Penrosianjoshua is on his school computer rn so he can't join16:51
jelknerWelcome Kara!16:51
Karathanks!16:51
jelknerhe can, using the web interface16:51
jelknerall you need is a browser16:51
Karahi im Joshua on Kara's laptop16:51
jelknerTry connecting through the web interface16:52
jelknerweb client16:52
jelknerhold on16:52
Karaits blocked16:52
Penrosianwebchat.oftc.net is blocked16:52
jelknerreally?16:53
jelknerwow16:53
jelknerok16:53
jelknergive me a minute16:54
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jelknerPenrosian: ask Kara to please not quit17:19
jelknerwe want to stay in the channel the whole time we are in class17:19
jelkneri'll be able to ask tboimah to look at the log for this tomorrow morning17:20
jelknerand to talk to zOnny about what we are doing on saturday morning17:20
jelknerwe're going to try to get in the habit of "hanging out" here whenever we are at our computers17:20
jelknerthat increases our opportunity for *unplanned interactions"17:21
jelknerit helps build the threads to that connect us as a remote learning community17:21
jelknerPenrosian: are you here?17:24
Karaim back17:27
jelknerGreat to have you back Kara!17:29
jelknerbtw, you can tab complete nicks17:29
jelkneri just have to type P + [tab] to get Penrosian 17:29
Karathats nice!17:29
jelkneranother thing to note is that irc users (i'm certainly guilty of this) are generally lazy and don't like to type capital letters ;-)17:30
jelknerso often you'll see everything typed in lower case17:31
Karai can get behind that17:31
jelkner(the school teacher in me can hear the English teachers screeming that we're killing the language! ;-)17:31
jelkneranother useful thing about our irc logs is that it makes it easy to share links17:32
jelknerso, if i ask you now to paste the links of the code you are working on17:32
jelknercan you?17:32
jelkneri'll be able to talk to tboimah about this tomorrow17:32
Karayeah just like normal right?17:33
jelknerKara: did you ever start the ToDo app of your own that you mentioned to me last class?17:33
jelkner+117:33
jelkneranother convention17:33
Karayeah ive started but haven't done much until today17:33
Karai see17:33
jelknerused to vote, or simply to affirm something17:33
jelkner+1 - yes17:33
jelkner-1 - no17:33
jelkner0 abstain (or don't care)17:34
Karamakes sense17:34
jelknerso when you see someone type +1 it means they agree or affirm what you are saying17:34
jelknerme too17:34
Kara+117:34
jelknerLOL17:35
jelkneri have to admit i love irc17:35
jelknerit *just works*17:35
jelknerwe use it day after day and it's always there for us17:35
jelkneras a late 1980s internet protocol17:35
Karai love it when things work17:35
jelknerit uses *very* little resources17:35
Karahow long have you used it?17:35
jelknersince 199317:36
Karawow thats a while17:36
jelknerwhen the dinosaurs still roamed the earth17:36
Karalol17:36
jelkneri became a free software activist that year17:36
jelkneri was in a masters degree program in CS17:37
jelknerand we were on VAX computers17:37
jelknerusing a compiler called gcc17:37
jelknerwhen i looked into gcc17:37
Penrosiani mean gcc is still used today i think17:37
jelknerit sure is, Penrosian 17:37
Karanot VAX computers?17:38
jelknerthought it's undergone a bit of a change in acronym17:38
jelknergcc orginial stood for "GNU C Compiler"17:39
jelknerGNU itself is a recursive acronym17:39
jelknerfor GNU's Not Unix ;-)17:39
jelkneranyway gcc now stands for 17:39
jelknerthe GNU Compiler Compiler17:39
Penrosianisn't it GNU Compiler Collection?17:40
jelknerand it supports most of the common programming languages in existance17:40
jelknerahh17:40
jelknermaybe so17:40
jelkneri've heard both17:40
Penrosianthe website refers to it as GNU compiler collection17:40
Penrosianhttps://gcc.gnu.org/ right at the top17:41
jelknerYup17:41
jelknerRegarding VAX17:41
jelknerhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VAX17:41
jelknerits a historical machine17:42
jelknerno longer made17:42
jelkneranyway, i have a rather unusual personal history that way17:43
jelknersince in found linux by wanting to run gcc at home17:43
jelkneri didn't come to gcc through linux17:43
jelkneri started using linux on my personal machines in 199317:43
jelknerand have done so ever since17:43
jelknerACTION done17:44
Penrosianit seems we have very different reasons for starting to use linux lol17:44
jelknerdo tell17:44
jelknerbtw. another little irc thing you can do - /me will write your nick17:45
jelknerso i typed: /me done17:45
jelknerACTION waits to hear Penrosian's story17:45
PenrosianI originally used it on a laptop I built from parts in computer club in middle school because I didn't feel like messing with windows keys17:45
jelknernice17:46
Penrosianafter that I used it a lot on my server(s)17:46
jelknercan someone please ask Kendyl if she is ready for me to come over?17:46
Penrosianthen I got fed up with using windows and decided to switch to linux as a daily driver17:46
Penrosianyes17:46
jelknerACTION is on his way...17:47
Penrosianlol17:47
Kararepository link for my to do app: https://codeberg.org/Karaaaaa/To-Do-App17:52
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