IRC log of #jetrowebdev for Friday, 2026-05-22

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dcammue_On yesterday, i attended my UL classes and this morning, i prepared the web class lesson, and update the calendar. todayd, i will be teaching the web class and see how best i can update the inventory list. no blocker11:00
thomasboimahI have been working on the feedback concerning the IRC bot. I will continue working on that today and hope to complete it, push it to the repo, and pull it to the server. I will also be working with Gabriel today on understanding LO. No blockers.11:00
jelknerToday i'll be attending the DNOVA Council meeting with high hopes that our long time networking will lead to some work for NOVA / Jetro Web. Blocking on finding gigs, but focusing on getting around that.11:00
dcammue_ACTION done11:00
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gabriel_jetroYesterday I completed my system setup and all is fine now, this morning I was installing some missing python pages for my system and also for the libreorganize, today i'll be working with thomasboimah to work me through with the .json file setup that zonny assign to me. There's no blocker no.11:00
gabriel_jetroACTION done11:00
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jelknergabriel_jetro, do you mean packages?  I don't know what Python pages are?11:01
jelknerGood morning all!11:01
dcammueGood morning jelkner and everyone11:01
thomasboimahGood morning jelkner 11:01
jelknerOur process is working nicely11:01
jelknerThese quick check-ins are really helpful, and suggest a few things we should discuss11:02
jelknerdcammue, i won't be in school today11:02
jelknersince i'll be at the DNOVA Council meeting11:02
jelknerdo you have a pull request for me?11:02
gabriel_jetrofor the libreorganize, the requirement.txt packages I had to install them so i can be able to run the repo on my local machine jelkner11:02
jelkneryup11:03
jelknerpython packages11:04
jelknerdcammue?11:04
jelknernever mind, dcammue 11:05
jelknerpull request merged11:05
jelknerdcammue, thomasboimah gabriel_jetro, can we chat about the inventory list?11:05
dcammueyes11:06
thomasboimah+111:06
gabriel_jetroYes 11:06
jelknerwe are running short on time11:06
gabriel_jetroI need phone jelkner11:06
jelknerand i need world peace and social harmony, gabriel_jetro, but we can't always get what we want ;-)11:08
dcammuejelkner, are you looking at the list now?11:08
jelkneri am11:08
dcammueso i added few things11:08
jelkneryes, i saw those things11:08
dcammueat the bottom11:08
jelkneryes, my friend11:09
dcammuegreat11:09
jelkneri already ordered two latitude 3189 batteries11:09
dcammuethose are some of the main things we need to for now11:09
dcammueexcept personal interest item11:09
jelknerand a 5481 keyboard11:10
dcammuethanks my Old Man11:10
dcammueLOL11:10
jelknerlol11:10
jelknerso let's talk about the system76 keyboard11:10
dcammuelook, jelkner, you are a hard working Old man11:10
jelknerthis is where your continued skills development because really important11:11
jelknerand where we most miss scooper's skills11:11
dcammueyou motivate us a lot11:11
jelknerthe keyboard replacement for that laptop is expensive11:11
dcammueyes, what is about the system 76?11:11
jelknerand we don't have resources to waste11:11
jelknerso we need to decide why the keyboard stopped working11:12
jelkneris it just a loose connection?11:12
jelknerif so, it could be reattached and we don't need a replacement keyboard11:12
jelknerif you know it is a true keyboard hardware problem11:12
jelknerit might make sense to order a replacement11:12
jelknerbut dcammue, i hope in your business study you are really learning about opportunity costs11:13
jelknerbecause in a world of finite resources11:13
dcammuethat is economics11:13
jelknertime, energy, money11:13
dcammueand i will do it later11:13
dcammuei did that in high school11:14
jelknerit has to guide us in our business dcammue 11:14
jelknerto continue, 11:14
jelknerbecause in a world of finite resources11:14
jelknertime, energy, money, etc.11:14
jelknerthe choices we make always incur a cost11:14
jelknerchoosing to do one thing means we have chosen *not* to do something else11:15
jelknermaking good chooses means we succeed11:15
dcammue+111:15
jelknermaking poor choices means we fail :-(11:15
jelknerit is pretty much simple as that11:15
jelknerlol11:15
dcammueyeah11:16
jelknerknow knowing the good choices when we see them, *that's* the hard part, right?11:16
jelkneranyway, we should continually learn to get better and better in thinking this way11:16
jelknerso, should we purchase that keyboard?11:17
dcammueso, in my view, i will do a proper check on the system76 as how to figure out the keyboard issue11:17
jelknerif we really need it, i *may* be a good choice11:17
jelknerbut if we order it because of ignorance (like not knowing how to open the laptop and replug the old one back in)11:17
jelknerthen we are wasting resources11:17
jelknerwasting resources smells to me like making bad choices11:18
jelknerand i think is a sure way to fail11:18
dcammue+1! that the point i was thinking11:18
dcammueif you know how to11:18
jelknerso i need more guidance from you11:18
jelknerif i know how to what?11:19
jelkneropen the laptop?11:19
jelkneryes, i have fixed that laptop before11:19
dcammueput hold on the purchase of the new keyboard, for now11:19
jelknerwill do11:19
dcammuei will do a proper check11:19
dcammueand tell you the cause11:19
jelknerand we need to be focused on continuing to have Jetro develop these skills11:20
jelknerJetro lost these skills when scooper left11:20
jelknerthere is a lesson here too11:20
jelknerto be resilient11:20
jelknerwe can't have single points of failure11:20
jelknerresilient systems have built-in redundancies11:20
jelknerso that if there is a break in the system it can self-repair11:21
jelknerour co-op is an economic system11:21
jelknerand we want it to be resilient11:21
jelkneri am a big danger to our system11:21
jelknerthat's why i have said several times before, we won't be successful until i am redundant11:22
jelknerscooper was another example11:22
jelknerhe had good skills and maintaining infrastructure11:22
jelknerwhen we lost him, we had no resilience built in11:22
jelknerbut we are getting it back now11:23
jelknerin my dreams, Jetro will become a healthy, vibrant collaborate economic ecosystem with 30 or so members11:23
dcammuesure11:23
jelknerresilient, democratic, healthy, and thriving11:24
jelknerso that's the dream11:24
dcammuecan we do a jisti call11:24
jelknersure11:24
dcammueokay11:24
thomasboimahjelkner, can we do video call so i can show and explain to you what is happening to the computer11:24
dcammuesend the link11:24
jelknerhttps://meet.mayfirst.org/novaweb11:25
gabriel_jetromulbah jeff said you should join the jisti11:37
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mkollehyes gabriel_jetro11:39
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gabriel_jetrojeff was asking for u mkolleh11:53
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