IRC log of #jetrowebdev for Friday, 2026-01-16

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gabriel_jetroGreetings mulbah_ 11:57
mulbah_Greeting gabriel_jetro11:59
gabriel_jetroAll good man, will you be at the office today to get the video from Thomas?12:01
mulbah_Yes12:01
gabriel_jetroI'm already here waiting for Thomas to come 12:02
mulbah_Who all there12:03
gabriel_jetroI'm here alone waiting for Thomas 12:06
mulbah_I suppose to be there ever since oo dcammue say we meeting with Jeff by 1212:09
gabriel_jetroYes, but I dunno why he hasn't shown up yet 12:09
mulbah_ Bro I can get data from you I will pay u the money if I reach I want to be online why coming12:10
gabriel_jetroNah man I'm broke right now, only my transportation to go home on me 12:11
gabriel_jetroSo I can use it to get you card when you come you put me on, no prob 12:11
mulbah_Send me 100mb12:14
mulbah_I don’t like to put one card in my phone12:15
gabriel_jetroThe money that is on my phone can't reach $4012:15
gabriel_jetroIt's $18ld on my phone 12:16
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jelknerHello thomasboimah!16:31
jelknerDid you download Episode 2 of Clean Code?16:31
thomasboimahHow are you doing jelkner 16:32
mulbahHello jeff16:32
thomasboimahyes16:32
jelknersweet16:32
jelknerJosh just arrived16:32
jelknerstill waiting for Kara and Ben16:32
gabriel_jetroGreetings jelkner16:32
jelknerhi gabriel_jetro, ben just arrived16:34
jelknerstill waiting for kara16:34
jelknerthomasboimah: you should queue up the video16:34
jelknerwe can then start it at the same time, so we'll be watching it roughly in sync16:35
jelknerdo you have it ready to start thomasboimah?16:37
gabriel_jetro+116:37
thomasboimahyes16:37
jgurarawe'll be ready once Penrosian finishes lunch16:38
thomasboimahokay16:39
gabriel_jetroWe're currently on "Clean Code-EO1-Remake-Good"16:40
gabriel_jetroMy bad EO216:40
Penrosian316:42
Penrosian216:42
Penrosian116:42
Penrosianstart16:42
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jelknerBig idea: names should communicate intent!!!16:55
thomasboimahYeah, and if it dose not communicate it intent, if faild to communicate16:56
gabriel_jetrosure, and it should also describe what a particular block of code is doing in naming variable16:56
gabriel_jetros16:56
thomasboimah*it*16:56
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thomasboimahname should be pronounceable!!17:03
jguraraname should be readable for others17:04
gabriel_jetroIf not other developer might call you name what ever they like!!17:04
gabriel_jetro*your17:04
mulbahkolleh__ Yes because they are the tools we use to communicate 17:06
gabriel_jetrolike for example: public class int z, should be public class int zebra to be readable to users or other developers17:08
jelknerclasses are nouns, methods are verbs17:08
thomasboimahClass and variable are nouns17:08
thomasboimahlol17:09
gabriel_jetrotake note classes shouldn't be a key word 17:09
jelknerboolean methods should be predicates17:09
gabriel_jetro+117:10
jelknerclean code should read like well written prose17:11
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jelknerfor variables, scope length should be proportional to name length17:15
thomasboimahvariable that have short scope should have long name17:15
gabriel_jetrotherefore the longer the scope of the variable the longer the variable name17:15
Penrosianfor classes/methods, scope length should be inversely proportional to name length17:20
gabriel_jetro+117:20
jgurarachoose names thoughtfully17:20
gabriel_jetrocommunicate your intent17:20
gabriel_jetroavoid disinformation17:21
gabriel_jetropronounceable names17:21
gabriel_jetroavoid dncodings17:21
gabriel_jetro*encodings17:21
gabriel_jetrochoose parse of speech well17:22
gabriel_jetrothe scope rule. 17:23
gabriel_jetroAnd that's how we come the end of the EO217:24
jelknerexcellent!17:25
jelknernext episode on wednesday of next week17:25
jelknersame time as this17:25
jelknerthis worked well17:25
jelkneri'm sorry kara wasn't here17:26
jelknerbut she'll catch up next time17:26
jelknerthomasboimah, gabriel_jetro, mulbah, your meeting with zOnny tomorrow at 7 am yes?17:26
gabriel_jetro+117:27
thomasboimah+117:27
jelknergreat17:27
thomasboimahno17:27
jelknerno?17:27
thomasboimahby 2:00pm his time17:27
thomasboimahThe time change now17:27
thomasboimah7:00pm our time17:27
jelknerah17:27
jelknerwhat lead to the change?17:27
jelkneranyway, i'll update my calendar17:28
thomasboimahI ask for that, because we want to get in the habit of working in the night heree17:28
jelknerok, i'll see you at 2 pm my time then17:28
jelkneri won't stay too long17:28
thomasboimahBut we can still attend17:29
thomasboimahthe standup meeting in the morning17:29
jelknerbut i'll be there in the beginning to talk about goals17:29
jelknerreally thomasboimah?17:29
jelknerthat's too long a day17:29
thomasboimah+117:29
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jelknerbtw, you will need to meet with me less and less as you take more ownership of this process17:29
thomasboimahthat is how we plan it17:29
jelknerwe can even just meet on weekends, like saturday at 2 pm17:30
jelknerto set goals for the week17:30
jelknerlet's talk more with zOnny tomorrow17:30
thomasboimah2:00pm your time and 7:00pm ours17:30
jelknersee you at 19:00 UTC17:30
thomasboimahokay you too17:31
thomasboimahhave a nice day17:31
jelknerACTION signs off until 19:00 UTC17:31
jelkneryou too!17:31
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