IRC log of #jetrowebdev for Monday, 2026-01-12

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mulbahHey gabriel_jetro11:59
mulbahHey gabriel_jetro11:59
gabriel_jetroGreetings mulbah 11:59
gabriel_jetroGreetings mulbah 11:59
gabriel_jetroare you at the office?12:00
gabriel_jetroare you at the office?12:00
mulbahhow are you doing12:00
mulbahhow are you doing12:00
gabriel_jetroI'm good and you12:00
gabriel_jetroI'm good and you12:00
mulbahNope I'm not12:00
mulbahNope I'm not12:00
gabriel_jetroBut will you be here today?12:00
gabriel_jetroBut will you be here today?12:00
mulbahwhy the others are not online 12:01
mulbahwhy the others are not online 12:01
gabriel_jetroI guess we get meeting today with jeff at 4:30pm and he did mention we wont have the stand up meeting...12:02
gabriel_jetroI guess we get meeting today with jeff at 4:30pm and he did mention we wont have the stand up meeting...12:02
mulbahso we will be meeting by 4:30 our time right 12:03
mulbahso we will be meeting by 4:30 our time right 12:03
gabriel_jetrosure12:09
gabriel_jetrosure12:09
gabriel_jetrowe the dev team, we'll be meeting with jeff and his student12:11
gabriel_jetrowe the dev team, we'll be meeting with jeff and his student12:11
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thomasboimahHi gabriel_jetro a16:25
thomasboimahHi gabriel_jetro a16:25
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thomasboimahokay16:31
jguraraHi16:31
thomasboimahhi jgurara 16:33
gabriel_jetroHi everyone 16:34
Karaaaaahi16:34
jgurarahello16:34
jelknerSo good to see you gabriel_jetro!16:34
gabriel_jetroSure jelkner16:35
jelknerthomasboimah, gabriel_jetro, where is mulbah?16:35
gabriel_jetrothomasboimah: I wanted you to help me with something that's why16:35
thomasboimahHe will be here soon jelkner 16:35
jelknershould we wait for him?16:35
jelkneri have a proposal to make about our study plan16:36
gabriel_jetroMulbah were on the hex chat and I told him to be here 16:36
thomasboimahlet give him 5min jelkner i will give him a call16:36
jelknersweet, thanks thomasboimah 16:36
gabriel_jetroSure I told him to be here by this time 16:37
gabriel_jetroGreetings mulbah 16:40
jelknerExcellent, the gang's all here!16:40
Penrosianhello mulbah16:40
mulbahHello everyone16:40
jelknerOkay all, i have a detailed study plan i want to pitch to you.16:40
jelknerAre you ready?16:40
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jelknersuper16:41
jelknerlet me start out with the goals of our study16:41
jelknerso we can do good backwards design, aiming our study at our outcome target16:41
jelknerwe want to get the NOVA Web / Jetro Web development teams up to the level where they can write clean, maintainable Django applications16:42
jelknercode we can be proud of16:42
jelknerfollowing best practices16:42
jelknerso we need two things:16:42
jelkner1. A nice project to work on16:43
jelkner2. A good curriculum16:43
jelkneri have proposals for both16:43
jelknerlet's start with the project16:43
jelknerthomasboimah has already been working on a ToDo app for us16:43
jelkneri'd like to propose that a really polished, feature full ToDo app be what we deliver by June.16:44
jelknerKaraaaaa and jgurara have already been working on their own ToDo apps as warm ups.16:45
jelknerIt might make sense for Penrosian, mulbah, and gabriel_jetro to to that too16:45
PenrosianI did already actually16:45
jelknerso you are all on the same page16:45
jelknercool Penrosian 16:45
jelknerwe you tell me you are ready (since my role is project manager in this process)16:46
gabriel_jetroOkay, so do I need to figure out my own Todo app?16:46
jelknerwe will figure out how we get you all working on the code base that thomasboimah started.16:46
gabriel_jetroOr you're gonna tell me what to do?16:46
jelknerno, gabriel_jetro, i'm not going to tell you what to do16:46
jelkneryou can ask Karaaaaa, Penrosian and jgurara how they did it.16:46
jelknerbut you will need to do that on your own16:47
jelkneri have neither the time nor the ability to micro-manage you16:47
gabriel_jetroBut I already started with my hope bridge Liberia website, can I use that?16:47
jelknerwe need a dev team that can get things done with minimal guidance16:47
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jelknertalk to thomasboimah, gabriel_jetro, he is your mentor16:47
gabriel_jetroOkay 16:48
jelkneri will be asking you to add feature to our shared ToDo app16:48
thomasboimahgabriel_jetro, let go with the plan so we call can be on the same page16:48
jelknerif you can do it, you have the required skills16:48
jelknerif you can't, you don't16:48
thomasboimah*all*16:48
jelknerat some point i may be willing to pay for new features16:48
gabriel_jetroUnderstood jelkner 16:49
jelknerbut just like i told Adrian and Stefan when i paid them for LibreOrganize16:49
jelkneri'16:49
jelkneri'm not willing to pay for code that isn't tested!16:49
jelknersince untested code is broken code16:49
jelknerso you will need to learn Django's unit testing framework16:49
jelknerand add unit tests to what thomasboimah has already written16:50
jelkneri won't pay for any new feature until that's done16:50
jelknerso, i have a recommendation for our curriculum16:50
jelknerUncle Bob's clean code video series:16:50
jelknerhttps://cleancoders.com/library/all16:50
jelknerwe could watch one video per week16:51
jelknerthey run about an hour16:51
jelkneri could put the videos on our shared server, thomasboimah, so you could watch them there16:51
jelknerok, that's my pitch16:51
thomasboimahsweet16:51
jelknerwhat do you all think?16:51
gabriel_jetroAmazing 16:51
gabriel_jetro+1 jelkner 16:51
Karaaaaathat sounds good16:52
Penrosiansounds good to me16:52
jgurarasounds good16:52
mulbahit's okay sound awesome16:52
jelknerok, thomasboimah, i'll put the 1st episode on the server now16:53
jelknerso you can watch it16:53
jelknerKaraaaaa, jgurara, and Penrosian already have16:53
jelknerthen we can watch the one we need to get to ASAP, espisode 2 on TDD, on friday16:53
jelknergreat, i'm done here16:54
jelknerwe have a plan16:54
jelknerlet's get cracking!16:54
jelknerACTION signs off to let the devs communicate16:54
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gabriel_jetroSo thomasboimah what's your input I might need your help 16:55
thomasboimahIs everyone have access to the TODO app?16:56
Karaaaaayes16:56
gabriel_jetroYes I do but unable to push, I wanted to discuss that with you tomorrow today but I guess I wasted transportation 16:57
jguraraYes16:57
gabriel_jetro*today 16:57
mulbahCjones hasn't marge my code yet oo 16:58
thomasboimahNice, Now the first step we should take here is that everyone getting their self familiar with ToDo code codebase. what you guys think?16:59
thomasboimahNice, Now the first step we should take here is that everyone getting their self familiar with the ToDo code on codebase. what you guys think?16:59
thomasboimahgabriel_jetro, when you will be at the office?16:59
thomasboimahso that i can help you out with your blocker17:00
Karaaaaai think that's a good idea 17:00
gabriel_jetroI dunno, cuz we talk to start today but seems like no one turn up 17:00
jguraraI think that's good17:01
thomasboimahGreat17:02
gabriel_jetroAre the code updated?17:02
thomasboimahyes17:02
Karaaaaathomasboimah, jelkner just put the first video in the uncle bob directory in the postgres server, let me know if you have found it17:02
gabriel_jetroOhk I'll git pull 17:03
thomasboimahOkay Karaaaaa 17:03
thomasboimahAny comment or suggestion?17:04
thomasboimahor question17:04
Karaaaaaare there any other additions we could make to the todo app to get more familiar?17:05
gabriel_jetroConcerning the video, you should share with me when you have it on your local machine 17:05
thomasboimahfeel free to add new feature Karaaaaa 17:06
thomasboimahThe best way to know if there is something still needs to be done on an app is by dogfeeding17:07
Penrosianthomasboimah: quick question about the todo app, is it manually deployed? I noticed that the title is still My App even though a PR was merged that should have fixed that and I'm wondering if I messed up the code or if it just isn't deployed yet.17:08
thomasboimahAhhh, nice question Penrosian 17:08
KaraaaaaI'll try and make a pull request with something new today17:08
thomasboimahyou did not messed up any code Penrosian, and thanks for the question, I will clone the new change on the server where the Todo is hosting today. after that the change will take place.17:11
thomasboimahOkay gabriel_jetro 17:12
Karaaaaathomasboimah have you been able to find the video?17:13
thomasboimahyes Karaaaaa, I am SCPing it to my computer17:13
Karaaaaaok17:13
thomasboimahKaraaaaa, 17:14
thomasboimahthe video did not finish copying to my computer it stop17:15
thomasboimahplease ask him if you delete17:16
Karaaaaaok ill tell Jelkner17:16
thomasboimahplease ask him if he delete17:16
KaraaaaaHe said he didn't delete17:16
thomasboimahask him for the directory17:16
Karaaaaahe says you should look in his home directory and it is in one of his sub directories but you should try to figure it out yourself17:17
thomasboimahokay17:18
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Karaaaaalet me know if you have any other issues with it17:20
thomasboimahKaraaaaa, the video is almost complete downloading17:25
Karaaaaagood17:25
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thomasboimahDownload complete!17:35
Karaaaaaill tell him!17:35
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Karaaaaabye17:54
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thomasboimahPenrosian, I push you change from the repo to the server it is now live18:19
thomasboimahPenrosian, I just push your changes from the repo to the server it is now live18:19
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