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| svaye | Good morning dcammue | 11:47 |
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| dcammue | Good morning svaye | 11:49 |
| svaye | How are you? | 11:51 |
| dcammue | Cool and you | 11:54 |
| jelkner | Yesterday i worked with cjones to organize our Django study group and completed my assigned ToDo tasks. Today i'll focus on lesson planning for next week in my classes. No blockers. | 12:00 |
| thomasboimah | On Wednesday I Completed the remaining features requested by zOnny for the LO blog app. zOnny will be reviewing the completed improvements tomorrow. Today I plan to prepare for my work session with zOnny tomorrow. No blocker | 12:00 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 12:00 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION done | 12:00 |
| svaye | Yesterday I met TMusingadi,jelkner and dcammue, and I can say the meeting was fruitful. I really wanted to go into a detail discussion with jelkner but I will wait when he gets here next summer. jelkner I would love to know if we could work in line with the plan as it relates to getting local customers before you get here? dcammue I saw your mail this morning, when you get the prices of the items please let me know so I can update the business plan. No | 12:00 |
| svaye | blockers | 12:00 |
| svaye | ACTION done | 12:00 |
| dcammue | Yesterday, I attended my UL classes and also attended a meeting with jelkner, svaye, and TMusingadi. We had a nice meeting each and a great discussion, enlightening TMusingadi mind about our mission and goal. Today, I plan to read the Accordingame book. And also do some research on the IRS about how file in tax return file as a bookkeeper | 12:00 |
| dcammue | ACTION done | 12:00 |
| jelkner | cool | 12:01 |
| jelkner | we have a weather delay at my school today | 12:01 |
| jelkner | so i'm still home | 12:01 |
| jelkner | i need to leave soon to go to the school | 12:01 |
| jelkner | let's talk briefly about one thing - svaye's business plan, so we can begin to be on the "same page" about that. | 12:02 |
| dcammue | In that way can we meet later | 12:02 |
| thomasboimah | jelkner, I already added the Django folks to the Todo repo. | 12:02 |
| jelkner | thanks thomasboimah! | 12:03 |
| dcammue | To drill me through some new idea | 12:03 |
| jelkner | dcammue, did you see i completed my ToDo task? | 12:03 |
| jelkner | svaye, i understand you may be eager to "get moving" with your plan, but we can't go anywhere we aren't ready to go | 12:03 |
| dcammue | Let check | 12:04 |
| jelkner | did you see my feedback in the ToDo app? | 12:04 |
| svaye | no jelkner | 12:04 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, can you check on this please? | 12:05 |
| svaye | How can I get to the feedback? | 12:05 |
| thomasboimah | Yes see it | 12:05 |
| thomasboimah | I see it | 12:05 |
| jelkner | I closed your issue, that you assigned to me. In closing it, I gave my feedback. | 12:05 |
| svaye | I see it now jelkner | 12:05 |
| thomasboimah | For dcammue to records the update sjc, and novaweb books. | 12:05 |
| thomasboimah | 1. https://share.mayfirst.org/s/tRxwfSsbtkywQ6G | 12:05 |
| thomasboimah | 2. https://share.mayfirst.org/s/Z5AnZN7WSPr2Nb4 | 12:05 |
| jelkner | +1 | 12:06 |
| jelkner | so, svaye, you can see that in my feedback i mentioned that the business plan looks fine at this point as a nice first draft | 12:07 |
| svaye | I saw it | 12:07 |
| jelkner | but that we aren't ready to actually "implement" it yet. | 12:07 |
| jelkner | why? | 12:07 |
| jelkner | svaye and dcammue, this is for both of you | 12:07 |
| svaye | We are still in the process of learning | 12:07 |
| jelkner | +1!!! | 12:07 |
| jelkner | awesome | 12:08 |
| jelkner | to be in business we need a "product" | 12:08 |
| jelkner | our "product" is our skills as web developers and bookkeepers | 12:08 |
| jelkner | according to your plan, svaye | 12:08 |
| svaye | I think this is time we get our roles and responsibility right jelkner | 12:08 |
| jelkner | it sure it | 12:09 |
| jelkner | but keep in mind that we are a small, democratic organization that will be constantly changing over time | 12:10 |
| jelkner | so we will have to always be ready to adapt, modify, adjust | 12:10 |
| svaye | dcammue, is our bookkeeper, thomasboimah is our developer for now, I would say I am the business manager | 12:10 |
| jelkner | innovate, expand, contract, etc. | 12:10 |
| jelkner | that sounds find | 12:10 |
| jelkner | s/find/fine | 12:11 |
| jelkner | but i think we need to operate in twos at least | 12:11 |
| svaye | instead of going in circle and trying to do everything we should stay were we are and grow | 12:11 |
| jelkner | otherwise, you are building a fragile organization with several single points of failure | 12:11 |
| jelkner | if thomasboimah gets sick, you have no developer | 12:11 |
| jelkner | if dcammue gets sick, the bookkeeping doesn't get done | 12:12 |
| jelkner | if svaye is out, no one manages projects | 12:12 |
| jelkner | that won't work | 12:12 |
| thomasboimah | mulbah use to be a smart guys i don't know way he back down this few days | 12:12 |
| jelkner | we will have angry customers all the time!!! | 12:12 |
| svaye | What we should focus on is how we can get other people to fill in the three major positions we have now | 12:12 |
| jelkner | why is Jetro taking so darn long to get my work done???!!! | 12:12 |
| jelkner | you get me, svaye? | 12:13 |
| jelkner | so we want to start with two at least of everything | 12:13 |
| svaye | yes jelkner | 12:13 |
| jelkner | i like what you are saying about roles | 12:13 |
| jelkner | and you have identified the three leads | 12:14 |
| jelkner | you 3 | 12:14 |
| jelkner | let's think about the roles of the other 4 members | 12:14 |
| jelkner | in my mind, thomasboimah was leader of a team of 3 | 12:14 |
| thomasboimah | Janet and Freena can back svaye and dcammue up | 12:14 |
| jelkner | but the other 2 members are not acting as much as "parts of the team" as i had hoped they would | 12:15 |
| jelkner | i'm talking mulbah and gabriel | 12:15 |
| thomasboimah | mulbah use to be a smart guy i don't know way he back down this few days | 12:15 |
| jelkner | we've been blocking on the office i felt | 12:15 |
| jelkner | so i planned to focus on that struggle once y'all moved in | 12:16 |
| jelkner | which will finally happen soon now | 12:16 |
| jelkner | after you move in, and setup our required basic infrastructure - including dependable electricity and unlimited bandwidth | 12:17 |
| jelkner | we can shift focus to building the dev team there | 12:17 |
| jelkner | that was my thought | 12:17 |
| jelkner | what do you think thomasboimah? | 12:17 |
| thomasboimah | I confuse jelkner i really don't know way | 12:17 |
| dcammue | That the idea | 12:18 |
| thomasboimah | I think i will have talk with him | 12:18 |
| jelkner | great | 12:18 |
| thomasboimah | *to* | 12:18 |
| jelkner | tell me more | 12:18 |
| thomasboimah | I think i will have to talk with him | 12:18 |
| jelkner | sure | 12:18 |
| jelkner | that's my point | 12:19 |
| svaye | jelkner, I believe with the office space available we can have meetings and stay dedicated to our responsibilities | 12:19 |
| jelkner | he is here sometimes, and other times not | 12:19 |
| jelkner | we don't know when | 12:19 |
| jelkner | so we can't plan very well | 12:19 |
| jelkner | a good business team that does not make | 12:19 |
| jelkner | he frequently drops off because he runs out of bandwidth | 12:20 |
| jelkner | or because his connection isn't good | 12:20 |
| jelkner | pros can't operate in conditions like that | 12:20 |
| jelkner | they need their tools to "just work" most of the time! | 12:20 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, thoughts? | 12:21 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, let me ask you another question... | 12:21 |
| thomasboimah | I think that will be great, getting the office that way we will be able to help one another out | 12:21 |
| jelkner | what should be the next thing we do to integrate mulbah and gabriel into the dev team? | 12:22 |
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| jelkner | see what i mean | 12:22 |
| jelkner | svaye just dropped | 12:22 |
| jelkner | we need an office! | 12:22 |
| thomasboimah | jelkner, don't you think we should add them to the Django team you and chris created | 12:22 |
| jelkner | Great!!! | 12:23 |
| jelkner | yes indeed, that's exactly what we need to do | 12:23 |
| jelkner | so thomasboimah, here's the thing | 12:23 |
| jelkner | you need to figure out if they are ready | 12:23 |
| jelkner | you watch, ben, joshua and kara are going to perform well | 12:23 |
| thomasboimah | Some time folks is afried to join the hexchat because they do have report to give | 12:23 |
| thomasboimah | *don't* | 12:23 |
| jelkner | they have strong "young professional" skills | 12:24 |
| jelkner | you do too, thomasboimah | 12:24 |
| thomasboimah | So if we give them something to do i guess they will be here to give report | 12:24 |
| jelkner | but i don't feel our other young jetro devs are there yet | 12:24 |
| jelkner | so we need to get them there | 12:24 |
| jelkner | part of our problem is financial | 12:24 |
| jelkner | we will all be discussing the Jetro business plan a lot during the month i am there with you | 12:25 |
| jelkner | but between now and then we have a lot of work to do | 12:25 |
| jelkner | if we want other jetro members to get paid | 12:25 |
| jelkner | we need to generate revenue | 12:26 |
| thomasboimah | Yes! | 12:26 |
| jelkner | dcammue is working hard toward that goal | 12:26 |
| jelkner | and svaye, you should work with him | 12:26 |
| thomasboimah | shout out to dcammue | 12:26 |
| svaye | +1 | 12:26 |
| jelkner | for now i think, both of you should be both bookkeepers and project managers | 12:26 |
| jelkner | you should learn to discuss things together | 12:27 |
| jelkner | so that dcammue is the first person svaye talks to when she has an idea, and svaye is the first person dcammue talks to when he has an idea | 12:27 |
| dcammue | All these happened when we have somewhere to meet | 12:27 |
| dcammue | And we are at that point | 12:28 |
| jelkner | there is an old saying (an y'all know i love old sayings! ;-), "Two heads are better than one" | 12:28 |
| svaye | exactly jelkner | 12:28 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, i want to help you with the dev team | 12:28 |
| dcammue | Sure | 12:28 |
| thomasboimah | that will be great | 12:28 |
| thomasboimah | What is the plan jelkner | 12:28 |
| jelkner | it needs to start with a meeting with thomasboimah, mulbah, gabriel and jeff | 12:29 |
| dcammue | When one is falling out the other pull it up and say let's get balance | 12:29 |
| jelkner | s/jeff/jelkner | 12:29 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, can you ask them to show tomorrow morning? | 12:30 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 12:30 |
| jelkner | we need to ask them what their goal is | 12:30 |
| svaye | dcammue, do you have the bank statement for jetroweb November, I would love to work on it then you can review it | 12:30 |
| jelkner | if they want to be part of the team | 12:30 |
| jelkner | then we need to talk about the other two member, janet and freena | 12:30 |
| jelkner | i was very happy to see janet take the initiative on decidim | 12:30 |
| thomasboimah | jelkner, Janet and Freena can join svaye and dcammue as backup what you think? | 12:31 |
| jelkner | but that is a much longer term goal | 12:31 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, we need to find out what they want to do | 12:31 |
| thomasboimah | yep | 12:31 |
| thomasboimah | If you want i can ask them to also be here tomorrow | 12:31 |
| jelkner | we are deepening our understanding all the time, thomasboimah | 12:31 |
| svaye | jelkner, beginning tomorrow I will join the Saturdays meetings along with you and dcammue | 12:32 |
| jelkner | excellent | 12:32 |
| svaye | My classes are over for this semester | 12:32 |
| jelkner | great | 12:32 |
| jelkner | ok, i need to run | 12:32 |
| dcammue | Thanks for the mentor | 12:33 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, can you be here on irc later today? | 12:33 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 12:33 |
| jelkner | i can reconnect with you when i get to school | 12:33 |
| jelkner | in about an hour | 12:33 |
| thomasboimah | OKay | 12:33 |
| jelkner | kara, joshua and ben have class with me today | 12:34 |
| jelkner | it would be great to get them to chat with you on irc | 12:34 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 12:34 |
| jelkner | ok, let me go so i can get to school | 12:34 |
| svaye | Have a wonderful day jelkner, see you tomorrow. | 12:34 |
| jelkner | see you tomorrow svaye | 12:34 |
| thomasboimah | I been chatting with then through mail anyway | 12:34 |
| jelkner | nice! | 12:34 |
| jelkner | but synchronous will be helpful | 12:34 |
| jelkner | too | 12:35 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 12:35 |
| jelkner | so let's get that going | 12:35 |
| svaye | jelkner, is it possible to meet kei | 12:35 |
| jelkner | svaye, email her | 12:35 |
| jelkner | she works hard to stay alive | 12:35 |
| svaye | Alright | 12:35 |
| jelkner | i don't see her very often | 12:35 |
| jelkner | she is working with Magic Broom | 12:35 |
| jelkner | but she reads her email | 12:36 |
| jelkner | and i can text her when i need to setup a phone conversation with her | 12:36 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off until he gets to school | 12:36 |
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| thomasboimah | svaye, can you please ask Gabriel to be here tomorrow. | 12:36 |
| svaye | Alright thomasboimah | 12:36 |
| thomasboimah | Okay thanks | 12:36 |
| thomasboimah | tell him in the morning | 12:37 |
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| thomasboimah | Our same meeting time my bad | 12:37 |
| svaye | okay | 12:37 |
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| thomasboimah | ACTION been here for 4 hour plus now, and Jeff did not show up so he is signing off | 16:40 |
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