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| dcammue | Good morning svaye | 11:53 |
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| svaye | Good morning dcammue | 11:53 |
| jelkner | Good morning dcammue and svaye! | 11:56 |
| svaye | Good morning jelkner | 11:56 |
| jelkner | 5 more minutes of morning for you two ;-) | 11:56 |
| svaye | Can I say happy thanksgiving jelkner | 11:56 |
| dcammue | Good morning jelkner | 11:56 |
| jelkner | yes indeed, svaye | 11:56 |
| jelkner | my brother and youngest son and his wife are here with us | 11:56 |
| svaye | Happy thanksgiving jelkner and zOnny | 11:57 |
| dcammue | Same to you jelkner | 11:57 |
| svaye | Good morning zOnny | 11:57 |
| jelkner | they're still sleeping | 11:57 |
| dcammue | Wow, what a great gathering | 11:57 |
| zOnny | Good morning svaye | 11:57 |
| dcammue | Good morning zOnny | 11:57 |
| dcammue | Good morning thomasboimah | 11:57 |
| mulbah | Good morning to all | 11:58 |
| svaye | Good morning thomasboimah and mulbah | 11:58 |
| dcammue | Saturday will be our nationa wide holiday too ;-) | 11:58 |
| dcammue | Good morning mulbah | 11:59 |
| jelkner | yesterday we got octree to restore the novasen.org site to working order, and i emailed rachel soon after to ask her to join. i also met with ved and arya. Today i'll celebrate the holiday with my family. No blockers. | 12:00 |
| zOnny | Yesterday, I had the opportunity to work on upgrading CKEditor in LibreOrgazine, which allowed me to address some deprecated dependencies. Although progress was slower than expected, I'm looking forward to today when I can demonstrate to Thomas how we're managing the deprecation of dependencies in the Django version we're using. NO blockers. | 12:00 |
| thomasboimah | Yesterday, we went over MayFirst’s response and confirmed that the CIDU project is actually hosted under the Nova Web Development account, not as its own separate membership. While testing, I tried SSHing into the novawebdev server but kept getting a “Permission denied” error, even though I had already added my SSH key in the control panel. I’ve sent a detailed email to MayFirst support so they can look into the issue. Today, | 12:00 |
| thomasboimah | I’ll be working with Zonny. No Blocker. | 12:00 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION done | 12:00 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 12:00 |
| thomasboimah | Good morning everyone | 12:00 |
| zOnny | ACTION done | 12:00 |
| dcammue | Yesterday, I read on TheAccountingGame, and also read my UL lessons. Today, I will be looking at how best I can improve the description of the transactions in NWD Gnucash book. Blocker on I will not get much more details for NovaWebDev transactions. | 12:00 |
| dcammue | ACTION done | 12:00 |
| svaye | Yesterday I spoke with Gabriel and he's sorry for missing our stand-up meetings, he's taking care of his mom and hope to be with us soon. Today I have a school program to attend. No blockers | 12:00 |
| svaye | ACTION done | 12:00 |
| mulbah | Yesterday I watch a tutorial on the Linux+ exam today I plan on completing it | 12:00 |
| mulbah | ACTION done | 12:00 |
| jelkner | nice! | 12:01 |
| zOnny | Cool! | 12:02 |
| jelkner | svaye, please tell gabriel i'm thinking about him and his mom and wishing her a speedy recovery | 12:02 |
| svaye | Alright jelkner | 12:02 |
| jelkner | dcammue, as you begin to take over bookkeeping for NWD, you'll ask *lots* of questions about our transactions | 12:03 |
| dcammue | Yes | 12:03 |
| jelkner | and little by little, you get to know who we are and what we are doing | 12:03 |
| jelkner | it will take time | 12:03 |
| dcammue | I am facing that challenge | 12:03 |
| jelkner | dcammue, do you have any questions you want me to answer? | 12:04 |
| dcammue | Not now my friend | 12:04 |
| jelkner | ok | 12:04 |
| jelkner | let me know when you do | 12:04 |
| dcammue | You can go meet your family from bed:-) | 12:04 |
| jelkner | they're still sleeping. i wont' disturb them! ;-) | 12:05 |
| dcammue | Got you | 12:05 |
| jelkner | zOnny, it is so great to have you back with us, my friend! | 12:05 |
| jelkner | this is *just* what thomasboimah needed to move his skills forward | 12:05 |
| thomasboimah | yes! | 12:05 |
| zOnny | jelker, I'm also gald to be balck and work with the jetro team | 12:06 |
| jelkner | i can't tell you happy this make me | 12:06 |
| jelkner | it really is a joy to work with y'all! | 12:06 |
| jelkner | i don't see janet here today | 12:07 |
| jelkner | if you see her, please tell her our novasen decidim is up and running | 12:07 |
| jelkner | i'll be reaching out to her to talk more about how we can use it | 12:07 |
| thomasboimah | Okay | 12:07 |
| jelkner | alright, if no one has anything else for me, i'll sign off and await our holiday festivities | 12:08 |
| dcammue | Jelkner, You are the rooster of the house, so you always wake up sooner ;-) | 12:08 |
| zOnny | Jelkner sounds good | 12:08 |
| jelkner | LOL | 12:08 |
| jelkner | Cock-a-doodle-doo! | 12:09 |
| dcammue | Cock | 12:09 |
| dcammue | I meant | 12:09 |
| jelkner | i am the "early bird", dcammue | 12:09 |
| dcammue | +1 | 12:09 |
| jelkner | Ben Franklin said "The early bird catches the worm" | 12:10 |
| jelkner | so i get a lot of worms | 12:10 |
| jelkner | ;-) | 12:10 |
| zOnny | jelkner quick question | 12:10 |
| jelkner | shoot | 12:10 |
| zOnny | who is octree? | 12:10 |
| jelkner | Good question | 12:10 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, do you know how to answer that question? | 12:10 |
| jelkner | dcammue, do you? | 12:10 |
| jelkner | if not, i will | 12:10 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 12:10 |
| zOnny | I'm lisening ... | 12:11 |
| zOnny | :) | 12:11 |
| jelkner | me too... | 12:11 |
| thomasboimah | Octree are the people that is helping out with Decidim | 12:11 |
| zOnny | Are they like us? | 12:11 |
| thomasboimah | They was recommended by jelkner son | 12:12 |
| jelkner | to add to that, zOnny | 12:12 |
| jelkner | Octree is one of two European companies we know of that do Decidim support | 12:12 |
| jelkner | the other is Open Source Politics in France | 12:12 |
| jelkner | Octree is in Switzerland | 12:12 |
| jelkner | I can tell you more, too | 12:12 |
| zOnny | ah, I'm getting it | 12:13 |
| jelkner | they are focusing on making "mini distros" of Decidim | 12:13 |
| jelkner | the call Voca | 12:13 |
| jelkner | Decidim is HUGE | 12:13 |
| zOnny | Is NOVASEN one of their clients? | 12:13 |
| jelkner | it's an octopus with arms all over | 12:13 |
| jelkner | that makes it hard for small groups, like NOVASEN, to use it | 12:13 |
| jelkner | since you have to configure so many components and then learn how to use them all | 12:14 |
| zOnny | Definitely, they need to cut off few arms :) | 12:14 |
| jelkner | Octree wants to split the components so that small organizations can get only the functions they need | 12:15 |
| zOnny | And make octopus fried :) | 12:15 |
| jelkner | LOL | 12:15 |
| jelkner | Yummy | 12:15 |
| zOnny | got you | 12:15 |
| jelkner | They do most of their business in Europe | 12:15 |
| jelkner | almost all, really | 12:15 |
| zOnny | and that is the same approach we are going to to do, yes? | 12:15 |
| jelkner | but they want to try to reach the U.S. market | 12:15 |
| jelkner | so they reached out to Agaric | 12:16 |
| zOnny | hack decidim | 12:16 |
| zOnny | the same way we did with tendenci, yes? | 12:16 |
| jelkner | yes, exactly | 12:16 |
| zOnny | Agaric? hell no | 12:16 |
| jelkner | ??? | 12:16 |
| jelkner | My son works for Agaric | 12:17 |
| zOnny | I mean , it would be nice if they reach out to us | 12:17 |
| jelkner | We're cooperators, zOnny | 12:17 |
| zOnny | got you :) | 12:17 |
| jelkner | we are working with Octree now | 12:17 |
| jelkner | since Guillaume from Octree reached out to Agaric, and my son Louie met with him. | 12:18 |
| jelkner | and referred him to us | 12:18 |
| jelkner | Octree is also working on the Richmond deployment of Decidim | 12:18 |
| jelkner | the city of Richmond will be doing a deployment | 12:18 |
| jelkner | so our goal will be to figure out how we can partner on this work | 12:18 |
| jelkner | btw. last thing | 12:19 |
| zOnny | It is getting clear now | 12:19 |
| zOnny | thanks for explaining it to me again | 12:19 |
| jelkner | i will arrive in Barcelona from my month long visit in Liberia on July 19 | 12:19 |
| jelkner | Guillaume will introduce me to the Decidim people there | 12:19 |
| zOnny | Are you meeting with them? | 12:19 |
| zOnny | Sweet! | 12:19 |
| jelkner | and then i plan to take a train to Switzerland to meet with Octree | 12:19 |
| jelkner | yes | 12:20 |
| jelkner | this Summer | 12:20 |
| jelkner | last thing zOnny | 12:20 |
| zOnny | shoot | 12:20 |
| jelkner | i like to say our business plan is about "walking on two legs" | 12:20 |
| jelkner | one of the legs is Decidim | 12:20 |
| jelkner | and i'm hopeful for that since it could mean contracts with city governments and livable wages | 12:21 |
| zOnny | and the other one Django, yes? | 12:21 |
| jelkner | but the other leg is still more solid - our favorite web framework, Django! | 12:21 |
| jelkner | yes | 12:21 |
| jelkner | Decidim is Rails | 12:21 |
| zOnny | That leg will take some time to move | 12:21 |
| zOnny | I meant the Decidim | 12:22 |
| jelkner | yes | 12:22 |
| jelkner | so let's focus our dev team on our core skill | 12:22 |
| jelkner | Python and Django | 12:22 |
| zOnny | I'm looking forward to get it running and see what the mess is there :) | 12:22 |
| jelkner | we can expand if and when the other leg becomes real | 12:22 |
| jelkner | for now, we can depend on Octree for the tech side of that | 12:23 |
| jelkner | kei and i need to focus on user support | 12:23 |
| jelkner | make sense, zOnny? | 12:23 |
| zOnny | Totally | 12:23 |
| jelkner | Awesome | 12:24 |
| zOnny | Thanks for the lecture jelkner | 12:24 |
| jelkner | so everyone, see you monday, same place, same time | 12:24 |
| dcammue | Quick update, thomasboimah and I will be going to the bank tomorrow to get the office rent money out:-) | 12:24 |
| zOnny | If I forget it again I know where to look at | 12:24 |
| jelkner | dcammue, i hope to hear good news on monday about the office! | 12:24 |
| jelkner | bye y'all | 12:24 |
| svaye | Have a wonderful thanksgiving jelkner and zOnny | 12:24 |
| dcammue | So Monday will be our celebration:-) | 12:24 |
| zOnny | Happy thanksgiving Jeff | 12:25 |
| jelkner | Thanks! | 12:25 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off | 12:25 |
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| zOnny | alright | 12:25 |
| dcammue | zOnny: | 12:25 |
| dcammue | Will you pay a visit to beautiful Liberia 🇱🇷? | 12:26 |
| zOnny | Sorry Jetro teaam, I needed to refresh my mind with Octree | 12:26 |
| zOnny | Eventually dcammue | 12:26 |
| dcammue | With jelkner doing next summer ? | 12:27 |
| zOnny | I saw your pictures with Jeff | 12:27 |
| dcammue | +1 | 12:27 |
| zOnny | dcammue, no next summer | 12:27 |
| dcammue | Copy | 12:27 |
| dcammue | Was not your plan my friend | 12:28 |
| dcammue | I was just playing | 12:28 |
| zOnny | https://weblog.elkner.net/blog/72/ | 12:28 |
| svaye | Have a wonderful day everyone | 12:29 |
| svaye | ACTION signs off | 12:29 |
| zOnny | Until next meeting svaye | 12:29 |
| dcammue | I am in the colorful long sleeve and thomasboimah in the yellow sweater | 12:29 |
| zOnny | Thomas are you here? | 12:29 |
| thomasboimah | Yes | 12:30 |
| dcammue | Next to jelkner | 12:30 |
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| zOnny | got it dcammue | 12:30 |
| dcammue | Perfect, get to work | 12:31 |
| zOnny | Thomas, as far I read your stand-up report, you couldn't get access to CIDU's mayfirst, yes? | 12:32 |
| dcammue | See you on Monday zOnny | 12:32 |
| zOnny | see you dcammue | 12:32 |
| dcammue | ACTION leaving | 12:32 |
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| thomasboimah | Yes zOnny but i email mayfirst about it, because it is strange | 12:33 |
| thomasboimah | Did you see the email i send? | 12:33 |
| zOnny | It is strange, we are novawebdev they should help us out | 12:33 |
| zOnny | Hold on | 12:34 |
| thomasboimah | I already email them about that. I'm sure that i will get back to us shortly | 12:34 |
| thomasboimah | *they* /I* | 12:34 |
| zOnny | I see | 12:34 |
| zOnny | we can follow up with the old credentials I have | 12:35 |
| zOnny | They will probably won't be able to reply today since it is holiday here | 12:38 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 12:39 |
| thomasboimah | so let hope they will reply by tomorrow | 12:39 |
| zOnny | but I hope they will reply saying this is how to access | 12:39 |
| thomasboimah | I used to access it before | 12:39 |
| zOnny | I remember saying that we can use the old passwrd? | 12:39 |
| thomasboimah | but maybe their is so configuration error from their end | 12:39 |
| zOnny | This is the ssh I have ssh cidu@claudette.mayfirst.org | 12:40 |
| thomasboimah | bingo | 12:41 |
| thomasboimah | ! | 12:41 |
| thomasboimah | i just access it zOnny | 12:41 |
| zOnny | really? :) | 12:41 |
| thomasboimah | I can remember me adding my ssh key to this yesterday but it was not working but know it work | 12:42 |
| zOnny | awesome! | 12:42 |
| zOnny | can you add my ssh and I can try on my end | 12:42 |
| thomasboimah | if you want i can add your ssh key to it | 12:42 |
| thomasboimah | sure! | 12:42 |
| zOnny | You got my public_key? | 12:43 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 12:43 |
| thomasboimah | zOnny, you can now try to ssh | 12:47 |
| thomasboimah | into the server | 12:47 |
| zOnny | trying | 12:47 |
| thomasboimah | you should log into Mayfirst control panel first with this info before you try to ssh into the server: username: novawebdev password: zXk2KyKJL6A6QT | 12:49 |
| thomasboimah | Ohh! i should have send this to you privately | 12:50 |
| zOnny | all good we change it | 12:51 |
| zOnny | what is the server ssh? | 12:51 |
| thomasboimah | ssh cidu@claudette.mayfirst.org | 12:51 |
| zOnny | keep asking for psswrd | 12:52 |
| thomasboimah | did you log into the control panel first | 12:52 |
| thomasboimah | ? | 12:52 |
| thomasboimah | remain login and try to ssh | 12:52 |
| thomasboimah | url: https://members.mayfirst.org/cp | 12:53 |
| zOnny | did you change the passwrd | 12:55 |
| zOnny | from the novawebdev? | 12:56 |
| thomasboimah | no | 12:56 |
| thomasboimah | just your private chat | 12:57 |
| thomasboimah | *check* | 12:57 |
| zOnny | I see | 12:58 |
| zOnny | It is getting me connection refused | 12:58 |
| zOnny | why I try ssh cidu@claudette.mayfirst.org | 12:58 |
| zOnny | *while* | 12:59 |
| thomasboimah | did you remain log into the control panel when you try to ssh to the server? | 12:59 |
| zOnny | yes | 13:00 |
| zOnny | I got hte panel open | 13:00 |
| thomasboimah | just a min let me check something | 13:01 |
| thomasboimah | Can you please logout the control panel | 13:04 |
| thomasboimah | just for a min | 13:04 |
| zOnny | done | 13:04 |
| zOnny | I logged out | 13:05 |
| thomasboimah | of now log back in a try to ssh into the server | 13:05 |
| thomasboimah | *Okay | 13:05 |
| thomasboimah | oK now log back in a try to ssh into the server | 13:05 |
| zOnny | I'm in | 13:05 |
| thomasboimah | sweet! | 13:06 |
| zOnny | lol, when I saw in the control panel my pub key, I realized it was from my macmini | 13:06 |
| zOnny | and not from my laptop | 13:06 |
| thomasboimah | ahh | 13:07 |
| thomasboimah | you send me two keys before | 13:07 |
| thomasboimah | it is the first one i add | 13:07 |
| zOnny | no worries | 13:08 |
| zOnny | I added both of them | 13:08 |
| thomasboimah | cool! | 13:08 |
| zOnny | just in case I'm not home :) | 13:09 |
| zOnny | alright | 13:09 |
| zOnny | progress :) | 13:09 |
| thomasboimah | yes progress! | 13:09 |
| zOnny | It seems to be running master | 13:11 |
| zOnny | but from 2020 :) | 13:12 |
| zOnny | if you do git log --graph | 13:14 |
| zOnny | It doesn't even have theme for CIDU | 13:17 |
| thomasboimah | Which one of the directory you are currently in is it srv or var | 13:19 |
| thomasboimah | ? | 13:19 |
| thomasboimah | Because i am not seeing anything in srv | 13:19 |
| zOnny | it is in the home | 13:20 |
| zOnny | in the cidu's home directory | 13:20 |
| thomasboimah | got you | 13:20 |
| thomasboimah | i now is what i was looking for | 13:20 |
| zOnny | I don't know what I did there :) | 13:21 |
| zOnny | But it works | 13:21 |
| zOnny | I don't know what Happened with the theme? | 13:24 |
| zOnny | Not sure if that is the CIDU's actual server | 13:29 |
| zOnny | any thoughts? | 13:35 |
| thomasboimah | no | 13:36 |
| thomasboimah | But i have a question | 13:37 |
| thomasboimah | When did you do the deployment of this site on MayFirst? | 13:37 |
| zOnny | 2020? | 13:38 |
| zOnny | that is the last commit record on the master branch | 13:39 |
| zOnny | I'm still confused how CIDU is working without its theme :( | 13:40 |
| thomasboimah | But do you think this is the server it is running on? | 13:41 |
| zOnny | I don't think so | 13:41 |
| thomasboimah | yes it is not. I just confirm that is site is running on this iP address: 104.237.139.133 which is different from the one on the DNS on mayfirst control panel | 13:43 |
| thomasboimah | yes it is not. I just confirm that the site is running on this iP address: 104.237.139.133 which is different from the one on the DNS on mayfirst control panel | 13:43 |
| thomasboimah | Maybe CIDU control their own site now. | 13:44 |
| zOnny | yup | 13:45 |
| thomasboimah | We can ask Jeff about this or maybe send an email to them and ask, But i am show that they control their own site now | 13:45 |
| thomasboimah | I bit even Jeff don't know much about this site. Maybe his son will | 13:46 |
| zOnny | I think kei was mentioning that Adrian did fix some errors for them | 13:46 |
| zOnny | Not sure if he moved to another server | 13:46 |
| zOnny | We need to ask Kei | 13:46 |
| thomasboimah | I'm he move that to another server. But we can ask Kei | 13:46 |
| thomasboimah | *show* | 13:46 |
| thomasboimah | */sure* | 13:47 |
| zOnny | cool | 13:48 |
| zOnny | I will ask her | 13:48 |
| zOnny | Not sure how aware she is in the technical stuff | 13:49 |
| zOnny | but definitely we need to find where it is running | 13:49 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 13:49 |
| zOnny | I found it | 13:50 |
| thomasboimah | you found what? | 13:51 |
| zOnny | It is one one the linode server | 13:51 |
| thomasboimah | okay | 13:51 |
| thomasboimah | zOnny, can i ask you a question? | 13:52 |
| zOnny | yes? | 13:52 |
| thomasboimah | When you was at Nova Web is it customer that pay for the server that their site is hosted on or Nova web is the one that cover the cost? Because i am confuse, customer is no longer in communication with the coop but the coop still take care of their server. | 13:54 |
| zOnny | I remember that they didn't want to use linode and wanted to use mayfirst | 13:56 |
| zOnny | Not sure if they purchased their mayfirst or we created one for them | 13:57 |
| zOnny | but according to mayfirst we were hosting their server | 13:57 |
| thomasboimah | My question is at Nova web who pay for the server? the customer or the coop? | 13:57 |
| zOnny | For some reason now the website is running in linode | 13:58 |
| zOnny | We paid the server | 13:58 |
| zOnny | since it is under novawebdev | 13:58 |
| thomasboimah | got you | 13:58 |
| zOnny | ah customer is getting free hosting I guess | 13:59 |
| zOnny | It is almost the same with all clients | 13:59 |
| zOnny | they don't receive invoice from us | 13:59 |
| thomasboimah | Do you think it should be that way? | 14:00 |
| zOnny | No | 14:00 |
| thomasboimah | Then why Nova is doing it that way? | 14:00 |
| zOnny | I think we used to have a contract where it specify the one year hosting | 14:00 |
| zOnny | then invoicing them every year | 14:00 |
| thomasboimah | I will ask Jeff about this when we meet again | 14:01 |
| zOnny | I just sent you the archive | 14:04 |
| zOnny | that used to be our contracts with the clients | 14:04 |
| zOnny | I hope you find it helpful | 14:04 |
| thomasboimah | I will take a look at it. Thanks | 14:04 |
| zOnny | We all were tech savvy but really bad managing our business | 14:05 |
| zOnny | Some clients have reached out asking us about the invoice :) | 14:06 |
| thomasboimah | This should be Kei job right? | 14:07 |
| zOnny | Yeah, we need someone like Kei for doing this | 14:07 |
| zOnny | I see her doing this from now on | 14:08 |
| zOnny | since we are trying to update their websites | 14:08 |
| zOnny | We need to make sure if Kei is willing to do this | 14:09 |
| zOnny | We used to use Business tracker for this purpose | 14:09 |
| thomasboimah | sure | 14:09 |
| zOnny | I think using Gnucash will help us be on track of the year invoice | 14:10 |
| zOnny | I think gnucash is a very powerful tool that can do invoices as well | 14:11 |
| thomasboimah | yes! that is going to help | 14:11 |
| zOnny | Let's talk with Jeff and Kei about this in our next meeting | 14:12 |
| thomasboimah | sure | 14:12 |
| zOnny | Not sure how Kei is doing with gnucash | 14:12 |
| zOnny | But she told she is using it for accounting | 14:13 |
| zOnny | *me* | 14:13 |
| zOnny | I think Jeff's goal is to jetro not have the same mistakes we did have in the past | 14:13 |
| thomasboimah | dcammue, and svaye is also using that here at Jetro | 14:14 |
| zOnny | Awesome | 14:14 |
| zOnny | The Accounting person plays a key role in the business | 14:14 |
| thomasboimah | yup! | 14:15 |
| thomasboimah | You was able to access the server the CIDU site is hosted on? | 14:21 |
| thomasboimah | I meant this: ssh root@104.237.139.133 | 14:21 |
| zOnny | no | 14:23 |
| zOnny | Did you? | 14:24 |
| thomasboimah | No | 14:25 |
| thomasboimah | I'm getting permission denied | 14:25 |
| thomasboimah | zOnny, when did Kei said the she will get be to about the Mdlatcaucos and Secosol site? | 14:26 |
| thomasboimah | *the/*that* | 14:26 |
| thomasboimah | zOnny, when did Kei said that she will get back to you about the Mdlatcaucos and Secosol site? | 14:27 |
| zOnny | I'm hoping soon | 14:28 |
| zOnny | We need to follow up that in our next meeting | 14:28 |
| zOnny | I think Secosol needs an update with the members | 14:29 |
| thomasboimah | Okay | 14:30 |
| zOnny | Also I did deploy a new branch yesterday named upgrade_CKEditor | 14:30 |
| zOnny | to LibreOrganize | 14:30 |
| zOnny | It think is was an issue since last year | 14:31 |
| zOnny | https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/libreorganize/libreorganize/-/issues/306 | 14:31 |
| zOnny | Feel free to check it out | 14:32 |
| zOnny | I just need to finish the tests | 14:32 |
| zOnny | I'm realizing we are going to have issues with our clients websites | 14:33 |
| zOnny | some of them being outdated | 14:33 |
| zOnny | This is where the question is | 14:37 |
| zOnny | Are we planning using LO with the old version? | 14:37 |
| zOnny | I think we are in a good time to update it | 14:38 |
| thomasboimah | You know the best here, you been using LO long before me. | 14:38 |
| thomasboimah | I am just a beginner when it comes to LO | 14:39 |
| thomasboimah | and I am trying to learn how it works and I'm getting their little by little | 14:39 |
| zOnny | I see | 14:39 |
| zOnny | Yes, you will master it | 14:40 |
| zOnny | from my perspective is better to deploy simple django websites for those that don't use CMS | 14:40 |
| thomasboimah | sure | 14:41 |
| zOnny | However, LO was created for those who want to interact with their websites | 14:41 |
| zOnny | which is better, since websites are lately interactive | 14:42 |
| zOnny | but LO is getting outdated | 14:42 |
| zOnny | But as far I noticed for now it is just the CKEditor | 14:43 |
| zOnny | Also my concern is the servers | 14:43 |
| zOnny | We got new server wit hno credentials | 14:44 |
| zOnny | that all from me | 14:45 |
| thomasboimah | We can discuss this with Jeff | 14:46 |
| thomasboimah | I sure he will go for it | 14:46 |
| zOnny | cool | 14:46 |
| zOnny | I feel we need to clean up the linode a little bit | 14:47 |
| zOnny | there are so many servers I am not aware of | 14:47 |
| thomasboimah | exactly the linode needs some cleaning | 14:48 |
| zOnny | Bitwarden credential doesn't work | 14:54 |
| thomasboimah | your credential for your nova web email? | 14:54 |
| zOnny | for PRT-02 linode | 14:55 |
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| zOnny | I feel this is another one we have to reset the pssrwd | 14:55 |
| thomasboimah | Yeah i try that but it did not work | 14:56 |
| thomasboimah | so we need to reset it | 14:56 |
| thomasboimah | Just like you did with the mdlatcaucus site server | 14:56 |
| zOnny | This website is very active | 14:57 |
| zOnny | we probably need to do it at night | 14:57 |
| zOnny | I cannot believe that the server needs to be shutdown in order to chance a pssrd | 14:58 |
| thomasboimah | Okay if you say so, should i be the one to do that or you will do that and share the credential with me? | 14:59 |
| zOnny | you want to try it | 14:59 |
| thomasboimah | I have done that before with the NWD server | 14:59 |
| thomasboimah | sometime back | 15:00 |
| zOnny | You might want to backup data before just in case | 15:00 |
| zOnny | When I was doing the MDlatinocaucus, the ngnix didn't respond | 15:01 |
| thomasboimah | yeah after that you need to active ngnix | 15:01 |
| zOnny | We cannot stop it since we don't have access | 15:01 |
| zOnny | ok | 15:02 |
| zOnny | you want to do it now? | 15:02 |
| zOnny | Wait you cannot backup data since you don't have access | 15:03 |
| thomasboimah | If the is fine with you, but you said that the site is currently active | 15:03 |
| thomasboimah | *that* | 15:03 |
| zOnny | But I feel if you run into any issue we both can addressed | 15:03 |
| zOnny | It is thansgiving, nobody works today | 15:04 |
| thomasboimah | okay | 15:04 |
| zOnny | We should be good | 15:04 |
| thomasboimah | let do it | 15:04 |
| zOnny | cool | 15:04 |
| zOnny | wait | 15:05 |
| zOnny | you got it? | 15:10 |
| thomasboimah | just a min | 15:11 |
| thomasboimah | I am observing that the Server is configure to only allows key-based authentication | 15:13 |
| thomasboimah | So I am Think if i shout the server down to change the password if we will still be able to login | 15:14 |
| zOnny | log in where? | 15:15 |
| zOnny | tho the server? | 15:16 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 15:16 |
| thomasboimah | check your private chat | 15:16 |
| thomasboimah | Change the password will not still the Key-based authentication | 15:16 |
| thomasboimah | *changing* | 15:17 |
| zOnny | I see | 15:18 |
| zOnny | I doesn't ask for psswrd | 15:18 |
| thomasboimah | What you ask for? | 15:19 |
| zOnny | I'm in | 15:20 |
| thomasboimah | with the passsword i shared? | 15:21 |
| zOnny | yes | 15:21 |
| thomasboimah | please add my ssh key | 15:21 |
| thomasboimah | you have it right? | 15:21 |
| zOnny | done | 15:27 |
| thomasboimah | Thanks | 15:27 |
| zOnny | are you in? | 15:28 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 15:28 |
| thomasboimah | and i am now see the theme in this one | 15:29 |
| thomasboimah | *seeing* | 15:29 |
| zOnny | right | 15:29 |
| zOnny | but whre is this theme in the gitlab? | 15:29 |
| zOnny | Did they work straight in the server? | 15:30 |
| thomasboimah | in LO custom theme | 15:30 |
| zOnny | I don't see | 15:30 |
| zOnny | *it | 15:31 |
| thomasboimah | Wait, I'm getting confuse their. what are you asking about? | 15:31 |
| thomasboimah | */their/ * here* | 15:32 |
| zOnny | the theme branch | 15:32 |
| zOnny | where is located in the gitlab? | 15:32 |
| thomasboimah | https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/libreorganize-customization/libreorganize-themes | 15:33 |
| zOnny | Do you a specific branch with cidu-cwa7777 | 15:34 |
| thomasboimah | know i get you i am see the cidu-cwa7777 branch on the server but it is not here: https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/libreorganize-customization/libreorganize-themes | 15:35 |
| thomasboimah | now i get you i am see the cidu-cwa7777 branch on the server but it is not here: https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/libreorganize-customization/libreorganize-themes | 15:35 |
| zOnny | right | 15:35 |
| thomasboimah | *seeing* | 15:35 |
| thomasboimah | But zOnny when you search for it in the search you will see it | 15:36 |
| thomasboimah | *bar* | 15:36 |
| thomasboimah | I just see it when i search for it | 15:36 |
| thomasboimah | https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/libreorganize-customization/libreorganize-themes/-/tree/cidu-cwa7777?ref_type=heads | 15:37 |
| zOnny | ah | 15:38 |
| zOnny | thanks | 15:38 |
| zOnny | But that branch isn't listed in the actual themes | 15:39 |
| zOnny | when you searched it brings you back to when it was a branch | 15:39 |
| zOnny | 5 years ago :) | 15:40 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 15:40 |
| zOnny | OMG! | 15:40 |
| zOnny | alright | 15:44 |
| zOnny | it seems like I can switch to that branch in my local LO | 15:45 |
| thomasboimah | me too | 15:45 |
| zOnny | cool | 15:46 |
| zOnny | I'm just worried about the server with so many modified files | 15:46 |
| zOnny | Any git pull changes will conflict with it | 15:47 |
| zOnny | unless we do stash them | 15:48 |
| zOnny | alright | 15:58 |
| zOnny | Do you have any questions | 15:59 |
| thomasboimah | About this No. but i have some question personal question | 15:59 |
| zOnny | yes? | 16:00 |
| thomasboimah | When you was with Nova web, how do Nova web get customer? is it hard to get customer in the US? | 16:02 |
| zOnny | It can be hard sometimes | 16:02 |
| zOnny | Novawebdev has customers thanks to Jeff and the coop community | 16:03 |
| zOnny | But there are always customers the only issue is that if we can deliver what the customers are looking for | 16:04 |
| zOnny | It is really hard to get customers if we don't have a solid dev team | 16:04 |
| zOnny | As for now, I think it will be challenging to get customers | 16:05 |
| thomasboimah | Why?? | 16:06 |
| zOnny | because we are not solid yet | 16:06 |
| zOnny | we are trying to keep the ones we used to help | 16:07 |
| thomasboimah | ahh got you | 16:07 |
| zOnny | I think that is Jeff looking for | 16:07 |
| zOnny | getting a solid team that can deliver first | 16:08 |
| zOnny | I hope I answer you question | 16:09 |
| thomasboimah | +1 | 16:09 |
| zOnny | How about jetro web? | 16:10 |
| zOnny | How hard is getting customers there | 16:10 |
| thomasboimah | Is just the same here | 16:10 |
| zOnny | Are they organizations that would lie to use something like LO? | 16:11 |
| zOnny | *like* | 16:11 |
| zOnny | *there* | 16:11 |
| thomasboimah | Our population is not that huge, and people is still trying to get use to the online presence | 16:11 |
| zOnny | Are there organizations that would like to use something like LO? | 16:11 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 16:11 |
| thomasboimah | even Decidim | 16:11 |
| thomasboimah | But they are few | 16:12 |
| thomasboimah | out of 100% maybe 10% | 16:12 |
| zOnny | I would like LO grow as Decidim | 16:13 |
| zOnny | If Jeff is right about Decidim and how we can market here | 16:14 |
| thomasboimah | But people is getting more expose in our country to tech, then before. and I'm happy about that | 16:14 |
| zOnny | since it isn't well know in the U.S. yet | 16:14 |
| thomasboimah | zOnny, was you the creator of LO? | 16:14 |
| zOnny | we probably going to have a chance to be well know | 16:14 |
| thomasboimah | of course. if everything work out well | 16:15 |
| zOnny | No, It was Stefan, one of Jeff students | 16:15 |
| zOnny | Our goal for know is to be fully familiar with Django | 16:15 |
| zOnny | once we get better at Decidim we can probably migrate the websites if the clients want | 16:16 |
| zOnny | Stefan andAdrian were my classmates in High school | 16:17 |
| zOnny | they were really good in the back-end | 16:17 |
| zOnny | I was good in the front-end | 16:17 |
| zOnny | But I started learning little by little the back-end | 16:17 |
| thomasboimah | I see | 16:19 |
| zOnny | If you get better at the back-end, we can be a good team | 16:19 |
| zOnny | But our goal should be learn both back-end and front-end so it makes easier for us to upgrade once the other dev is not reachable | 16:20 |
| thomasboimah | yup | 16:20 |
| zOnny | I think we can call the day here | 16:20 |
| thomasboimah | Okay zOnny thanks for today. I can say that i am learning a lot from you | 16:21 |
| zOnny | It will get better once we start deploying changes to the production | 16:22 |
| thomasboimah | sure, One more question | 16:22 |
| zOnny | yes? | 16:22 |
| thomasboimah | Is there any were i can find a doc for LO? | 16:22 |
| zOnny | good question | 16:23 |
| zOnny | Not sure if we have one | 16:25 |
| zOnny | https://libreorganize.org/ | 16:25 |
| zOnny | I think we never finish one | 16:25 |
| thomasboimah | Okay | 16:25 |
| zOnny | LO is a very fresh project that started as a regular django project | 16:26 |
| thomasboimah | I was hoping there was one, that way it will help me move fast with LO | 16:26 |
| zOnny | I understand | 16:26 |
| zOnny | Doc it really helps | 16:26 |
| thomasboimah | But no problem i am learning from you anyway | 16:26 |
| zOnny | if you try to learn more django in your own | 16:27 |
| zOnny | like updating your todo app | 16:27 |
| zOnny | or trying to add a new feature | 16:27 |
| zOnny | LO was created the same | 16:27 |
| zOnny | It isn't perfect yet | 16:27 |
| zOnny | it has the basic functionality | 16:28 |
| thomasboimah | I read the django every week | 16:28 |
| thomasboimah | doc | 16:28 |
| thomasboimah | So i can get more good at Django | 16:28 |
| zOnny | Good, that is the way I learn as well | 16:29 |
| zOnny | its been awhile that I haven't use django | 16:29 |
| zOnny | 5 years :) | 16:29 |
| thomasboimah | wow! longtime | 16:30 |
| zOnny | since I'm full time student and have a full time job | 16:30 |
| zOnny | it's difficult to me to catch up with it | 16:30 |
| zOnny | I'm sure you will get better soon | 16:30 |
| thomasboimah | yup | 16:30 |
| zOnny | You have the curiosity thomas | 16:30 |
| thomasboimah | Thanks | 16:31 |
| zOnny | Try to learn Python | 16:31 |
| zOnny | at the same time | 16:31 |
| zOnny | since Django is just a framework for python | 16:31 |
| thomasboimah | Yes i was learning Python before. I wrote a PCEP python test a i get a certificate | 16:32 |
| zOnny | Congrats thomas | 16:32 |
| thomasboimah | I stated learning Python before i can move to django since i know that was the basic | 16:32 |
| thomasboimah | All thanks to Jeff he pay for my test | 16:33 |
| zOnny | Keep learning while you can, it will pay off later | 16:33 |
| thomasboimah | Yeah | 16:34 |
| zOnny | Since we are not working this weekend | 16:34 |
| zOnny | I would like you to improve the blog app | 16:34 |
| zOnny | it is very basic the one that is in the LO | 16:35 |
| thomasboimah | Okay, What feature you want me to add to it | 16:35 |
| zOnny | if you compare with the The-blog project | 16:35 |
| zOnny | We should have a table with the latest post | 16:38 |
| zOnny | You said you have it running The-blog in your local, yes? | 16:39 |
| thomasboimah | +1 | 16:39 |
| zOnny | Try to see what features it has when you create a post | 16:39 |
| zOnny | and compare it with the LO blog | 16:40 |
| thomasboimah | okay | 16:40 |
| thomasboimah | So you are saying that i should make the blog app look just like the-blog right? | 16:41 |
| zOnny | yes | 16:41 |
| thomasboimah | Okay i will do that | 16:41 |
| zOnny | very similar | 16:41 |
| thomasboimah | Thanks for today again | 16:41 |
| zOnny | try to checkout to my branch upgrade_CKEditor | 16:42 |
| zOnny | in order to avoid ckEditor errors | 16:42 |
| thomasboimah | Okay | 16:43 |
| zOnny | Next week we should be able to hear from Kei about Secosol | 16:43 |
| thomasboimah | Yes! I'm hoping for tha | 16:43 |
| zOnny | If you feel stuck, feel free to send e your errors through email | 16:44 |
| zOnny | I can reply to you with the fixes needed | 16:44 |
| thomasboimah | Alright | 16:45 |
| zOnny | please cc my personal email | 16:45 |
| thomasboimah | Okay | 16:45 |
| zOnny | I don't usually open the business email | 16:45 |
| zOnny | Not sure what to use for getting it working in my phone | 16:45 |
| zOnny | I used to use an app for the novawebdev | 16:46 |
| zOnny | I don't remember which | 16:46 |
| thomasboimah | use the link in you phone browser: https://roundcube.dev.mayfirst.org/ | 16:46 |
| zOnny | right | 16:48 |
| zOnny | but to get notified | 16:48 |
| thomasboimah | notified hmm i don't think that will work | 16:49 |
| zOnny | alright, see you next weekend thomas | 16:51 |
| thomasboimah | Okay | 16:51 |
| thomasboimah | have a nice day | 16:51 |
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