| dcammue | Good morning svaye | 11:40 |
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| svaye | Good morning dcammue | 11:44 |
| svaye | How are you doing | 11:44 |
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| svaye | dcammue, | 11:48 |
| svaye | did you get my message yesterday? | 11:48 |
| dcammue | Yesterday, and this morning. I had a great meeting with Mr. Zawolo concerning the office space. | 11:56 |
| dcammue | Good morning jelkner | 11:56 |
| dcammue | jelkner: you saw my mail | 11:57 |
| svaye | Good morning everyone | 11:58 |
| jelkner | Yesterday i attended the novasen meeting where we planned for our community dinner tomorrow. Today i'll be attending the DNOVA Council meeting where Decidim is a main agenda item. No blockers. | 12:00 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 12:00 |
| svaye | Yesterday I attend my classes and work on little on the jetroweb book in gnucash, Today I will continue and hopefully be done before our next meeting. No blockers | 12:00 |
| jelkner | Good day all. | 12:00 |
| svaye | ACTION done | 12:00 |
| thomasboimah | On Wednesday, I been preparing myself ahead with Librorganize and Django for my work session with zOnny tomorrow and Sunday. Today I will continue with that. No blocker. | 12:00 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION done | 12:00 |
| thomasboimah | Good morning j | 12:01 |
| thomasboimah | jelkner, | 12:01 |
| jelkner | ok, svaye and dcammue, i'm wondering when you think you'll be able to show me your Gnucash setup for Jetro Web transaction | 12:01 |
| jelkner | ? | 12:01 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, | 12:01 |
| svaye | jelkner, the books will be ready by monday | 12:01 |
| jelkner | sounds good svaye | 12:01 |
| jelkner | i think that is the best way for you two to learn basic accounting | 12:02 |
| jelkner | and me too, for that matter | 12:02 |
| jelkner | since we will have *real* transactions to track | 12:02 |
| dcammue | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/78IHUv1x | 12:02 |
| jelkner | we will understand them personally | 12:02 |
| jelkner | making it truly "project based learning" | 12:02 |
| jelkner | or even "problem based learning" | 12:03 |
| thomasboimah | This is dcammue update for record: Yesterday, and this morning. I had a great meeting with Mr. Zawolo concerning the office space. | 12:03 |
| thomasboimah | And there is great news. | 12:03 |
| thomasboimah | Mr. Zawolo has selected a place from among the places Thomas and I found. Meanwhile, jeteroweb gets a pending office | 12:03 |
| jelkner | "learning by doing" | 12:03 |
| thomasboimah | He past it in pastbin | 12:03 |
| dcammue | I don't know how this works | 12:03 |
| jelkner | that is fantastic! | 12:03 |
| jelkner | it will be a huge step forward when jetro has its office | 12:04 |
| mulbah | Hello everyone | 12:04 |
| jelkner | i think it will be a game changer | 12:04 |
| thomasboimah | Good afternoon mulbah | 12:04 |
| mulbah | I'm sorry I late | 12:04 |
| jelkner | then we can teach mulbah our protocol for stand-up meetings | 12:05 |
| jelkner | and he can show up on time ready to report! ;-) | 12:05 |
| jelkner | since he will live there | 12:05 |
| dcammue | jelkner: concerning the Gnucash jetroweb book, I am already done updating it | 12:05 |
| jelkner | he won't have far to travel ;-) | 12:05 |
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| dcammue | You can now look at it my friend:-) | 12:05 |
| jelkner | wow, really? | 12:05 |
| dcammue | Yes | 12:06 |
| jelkner | can we look at it together tomorrow? | 12:06 |
| dcammue | +1 | 12:06 |
| jelkner | great | 12:06 |
| dcammue | I emailed you | 12:06 |
| jelkner | let's plan to do that | 12:06 |
| dcammue | But maybe you didn't check | 12:06 |
| jelkner | i got an email from you with a bank statement | 12:06 |
| jelkner | i did look | 12:06 |
| jelkner | at that | 12:06 |
| dcammue | I mean the last reply you did | 12:07 |
| dcammue | I also reply to it | 12:07 |
| jelkner | i'm confused dcammue | 12:07 |
| jelkner | i responded to an email this morning | 12:07 |
| jelkner | what i haven't done | 12:08 |
| jelkner | is start gnucash | 12:08 |
| jelkner | connect it to the jetro web accounts | 12:08 |
| jelkner | and looked at those with you | 12:08 |
| jelkner | that's what i'm wanting to do | 12:08 |
| dcammue | Wow, my bad then | 12:08 |
| dcammue | I am behind time:-) | 12:09 |
| svaye | dcammue, I was working on the jetroweb database when did you complete it? | 12:10 |
| dcammue | svaye: | 12:10 |
| dcammue | When | 12:10 |
| jelkner | to see each transaction entered using the Assets = Liabilities + Equity double entry accounting | 12:11 |
| dcammue | And how many months transactions have you uploaded? | 12:11 |
| dcammue | I saw nothing my friend | 12:11 |
| jelkner | dcammue, i am so confused? | 12:11 |
| jelkner | what do you mean you saw nothing? | 12:11 |
| dcammue | On what jelkner | 12:11 |
| jelkner | you are going to enter the transaction, yes? | 12:12 |
| jelkner | i don't understand | 12:12 |
| dcammue | svaye: said she has been updating the jetroweb book. But when I returned, I saw no new updates | 12:12 |
| jelkner | ah | 12:13 |
| jelkner | you two need to figure this out | 12:13 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, you may need to help them | 12:13 |
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| dcammue | So I don't know how she been doing it? | 12:13 |
| jelkner | they should be working on the same database | 12:13 |
| thomasboimah | sure | 12:13 |
| jelkner | if they are not | 12:13 |
| thomasboimah | dcammue, and svaye you too need to coordinate | 12:13 |
| jelkner | +1! | 12:13 |
| thomasboimah | svaye work with dcammue it seen like his is on top things | 12:14 |
| thomasboimah | *he* | 12:14 |
| jelkner | in fact, dcammue, you should set up an in-person meeting with svaye and thomasboimah | 12:14 |
| jelkner | a "work session" where you work together to get this set up properly | 12:14 |
| jelkner | i want to know when you are ready to show it to me | 12:14 |
| dcammue | But she hardly communicate, since she received the statements, only one time she communicated with me | 12:15 |
| dcammue | So in that way I feel all is well | 12:15 |
| jelkner | so we can begin analyzing jetro transactions from a solid accounting point of view | 12:15 |
| thomasboimah | That is our be issue, communication. We need to get use to this | 12:16 |
| thomasboimah | *big* | 12:16 |
| jelkner | look y'all, you will need to learn to coordinate your activity through your practice | 12:16 |
| jelkner | i keep saying that | 12:16 |
| jelkner | and i also say that if we want to succeed | 12:16 |
| jelkner | it makes sense to start with your champions | 12:16 |
| dcammue | But jelkner, I don't think svaye update the book | 12:16 |
| jelkner | right now, i would say thomasboimah and dcammue are the champions | 12:17 |
| jelkner | since we have work to do | 12:17 |
| dcammue | Because she has access before | 12:17 |
| jelkner | and they are doing it | 12:17 |
| jelkner | let's just decide at these daily meetings who will do what | 12:17 |
| dcammue | And she ask for the past statement to compare the book with the statement | 12:17 |
| jelkner | and then hold each other accountable | 12:17 |
| jelkner | dcammue, i don't want to litigate the past | 12:17 |
| jelkner | blame won't help us | 12:18 |
| jelkner | we need to move forward | 12:18 |
| jelkner | so if you, dcammue, can get the books ready by tomorrow | 12:18 |
| jelkner | *you* do it | 12:18 |
| dcammue | Jelkner | 12:18 |
| jelkner | and you should bill jetro for your time | 12:18 |
| jelkner | get me? | 12:18 |
| jelkner | once we have the accounting working | 12:18 |
| jelkner | you all can get paid for what you do | 12:18 |
| jelkner | that is the only way jetro will become a viable business | 12:19 |
| thomasboimah | dcammue, is a staff member now no need for him to bill | 12:19 |
| jelkner | what do you need from me, my friend? | 12:19 |
| dcammue | I am done with the book. I set up the book first, | 12:19 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, ah, let's talk about that | 12:19 |
| thomasboimah | We have meeting about that | 12:19 |
| thomasboimah | Check Monday log | 12:19 |
| dcammue | I only added the new transaction | 12:20 |
| jelkner | i was thinking we would have a much deeper discussion of all this durning my visit | 12:20 |
| thomasboimah | https://irclogs.novawebdevelopment.org/%23jetrowebdev/2025-11-17.log.html | 12:20 |
| jelkner | you all realize i'm a communist, irght? | 12:20 |
| jelkner | right? | 12:20 |
| thomasboimah | +1 | 12:20 |
| jelkner | so i would love to live in a world that operates on the princpile: | 12:21 |
| jelkner | From each according to their ability, to each according to their need | 12:21 |
| jelkner | that's the dream | 12:21 |
| jelkner | but that assumes relatively unlimited resources | 12:21 |
| jelkner | we are in a situation of scarcity | 12:21 |
| jelkner | we don't have all we need (and certainly not all we want) | 12:22 |
| jelkner | so we can't operate on that principle | 12:22 |
| jelkner | it is sometime stated that the principle of socialism is: | 12:22 |
| jelkner | From each according to their ability, to each according to their work | 12:22 |
| jelkner | that provides motivation under scarcity for us to help produce | 12:23 |
| jelkner | so we can consume | 12:23 |
| jelkner | anyway, i keep telling you that if jetro dosn't become a viable business, it will not be able to keep going | 12:24 |
| jelkner | so getting the books right is *really* imporant | 12:24 |
| jelkner | jetro is a democratic worker owned business | 12:24 |
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| jelkner | you all decided what to do | 12:24 |
| jelkner | but you can only decide based on the reality of what you have available | 12:24 |
| jelkner | so if i tell you that SJC won't send any more money to jetro until it gets a solid finanical report on where the last money went | 12:25 |
| jelkner | then none of you will be able to spend money you don't have, right? | 12:25 |
| thomasboimah | +1 | 12:26 |
| dcammue | +1 | 12:26 |
| jelkner | so you need to get the books done! | 12:26 |
| jelkner | i'm not going to manage who and when, that is for you to figure out | 12:26 |
| jelkner | sometimes i still meddle too much | 12:26 |
| jelkner | you are getting better and better over time | 12:26 |
| jelkner | as you learn from your experience | 12:26 |
| jelkner | we will have arrived when you tell me how you are going to do things! | 12:27 |
| jelkner | i'm just the customer | 12:27 |
| jelkner | i tell you want i want | 12:27 |
| jelkner | you decide how to deliver it | 12:27 |
| jelkner | and how much it will cost me | 12:27 |
| jelkner | that's how business gets done, right? | 12:27 |
| dcammue | The book is done. Just check during the weekend and report to me by Monday | 12:27 |
| dcammue | +1 | 12:28 |
| jelkner | dcammue, i thought we will meet tomorrow | 12:28 |
| jelkner | are we? | 12:28 |
| dcammue | Yes | 12:28 |
| jelkner | not monday | 12:28 |
| dcammue | OK then tomorrow | 12:28 |
| jelkner | +1 | 12:28 |
| jelkner | perfect | 12:28 |
| dcammue | Check today | 12:28 |
| thomasboimah | jelkner, well you be in my work session with zOnny tomorrow | 12:28 |
| thomasboimah | ? | 12:28 |
| jelkner | i can't dcammue | 12:28 |
| dcammue | And meet tomorrow | 12:28 |
| thomasboimah | *will* | 12:28 |
| jelkner | i have to leave for a DNOVA Council meeting | 12:28 |
| jelkner | then teach an afternoon class | 12:29 |
| jelkner | i'll look tomorrow | 12:29 |
| jelkner | while i'm chatting with you | 12:29 |
| thomasboimah | jelkner, will you be in my work session with zOnny tomorrow? | 12:29 |
| jelkner | so i can ask questions | 12:29 |
| dcammue | This evening when you get home :-) | 12:29 |
| jelkner | yes, thomasboimah | 12:29 |
| dcammue | Just joking | 12:29 |
| jelkner | lol, dcammue, i'm to OLD! | 12:29 |
| jelkner | i can't keep going like you young folks | 12:30 |
| dcammue | :-) :-) | 12:30 |
| jelkner | ok, gotta run | 12:30 |
| jelkner | see you tomorrow | 12:30 |
| jelkner | same time, same place | 12:30 |
| jelkner | ACTION logs off until tomorrow | 12:30 |
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| thomasboimah | Bye guys | 12:30 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION leaving | 12:30 |
| thomasboimah | mulbah, will | 12:30 |
| thomasboimah | you be in our work session tomorrow? | 12:31 |
| dcammue | Mr. Zawolo said he wants to talk to the people concerning the water issue | 12:31 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION sign off | 12:31 |
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| svaye | dcammue, | 12:32 |
| dcammue | svaye: | 12:32 |
| svaye | I have been working on the database so I don't know what is going on | 12:33 |
| mulbah | I will be there | 12:33 |
| mulbah | by 12 right?? | 12:33 |
| dcammue | svaye: | 12:34 |
| svaye | I am in the database, and the only changes I see is the one I made | 12:34 |
| dcammue | Just check and tell me what you see in the checking account | 12:35 |
| dcammue | The last transaction in the checking account? | 12:35 |
| svaye | 3,766.39 | 12:35 |
| dcammue | Is the balance right | 12:36 |
| svaye | yes | 12:36 |
| dcammue | So what month you see the balance to | 12:36 |
| svaye | this month | 12:37 |
| dcammue | So how come is you that added that transaction | 12:38 |
| dcammue | What Month did you stop to? | 12:38 |
| svaye | dcammue, you put all the transactions in one account | 12:38 |
| svaye | does it go into their respective accounts when you place them in the checking account | 12:40 |
| dcammue | All the transactions is to checking account first, before transferring them to the other accounts | 12:40 |
| svaye | Thanks for the understanding | 12:41 |
| dcammue | Money comes to the checking account and is the checking account you used to get money out of the business | 12:41 |
| dcammue | So you use checking account to pay salaries and correspond to salaries expense account | 12:42 |
| svaye | Alright | 12:42 |
| svaye | do they automatically go to their respective accounts after. | 12:44 |
| dcammue | Yes | 12:44 |
| svaye | Alright, I think I made a mistake and work in the wrong worksheet. thanks | 12:45 |
| svaye | have a wonderful day dcammue | 12:46 |
| dcammue | If you withdraw 500 from checking and select the corresponding account from where you see transfer within the same line of the transaction, it automatically go there | 12:47 |
| dcammue | You too | 12:47 |
| svaye | Thanks dcammue | 12:47 |
| dcammue | You are welcome | 12:47 |
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