IRC log of #jetrowebdev for Tuesday, 2025-10-21

thomasboimahGood morning Jetro10:58
svayeGood morning thomasboimah 10:58
thomasboimahGood morning svaye  and freena 10:59
jelknerYesterday i worked on teacher lesson planning. Today i'll try to get in some gnucash with postgres setup notes. I have a meeting with CPA today at 3 pm. No blockers.11:00
jelknerACTION done11:00
thomasboimahYesterday I deploy the minor style that was added to the Todo app to the production server and completed my UoPeople Database assignment. Today, I plan to investigate VPN (Virtual Private Network) that we will use for a direct connection to the U.S. to access state documents. No blocker.11:00
thomasboimahACTION done11:00
svayeYesterday I try logging in to SJC bank account but I couldn't access it, I forgot to ask thomasboimah for the estimated time for the the website, I try calling him this morning but he's not answering.  Today I woke up with the flu, and I have a bad headache, I don't think I will be able to work today but I will try when I feel better. Blocking on accessing SJC bank account. 11:02
dcammueSorry11:02
svayeACTION done11:02
thomasboimahsvaye: I have issue with my Orange number11:03
mulbahYesterday I just work on a project I have been working on for a long time now "My Church Management System" I'm using Frappe framework for it11:03
mulbahACTION done11:03
dcammueI yesterday,  I tried logging in the sjcompute bank account but the phone number was the blockers 11:03
jelknerinteresting mulbah 11:03
dcammueToday I wish jelkner could help me do that11:03
jelkneri look forward to finding out more about that when i come visit11:03
dcammueACTION done 11:03
jelknerdcammue: ahh yes11:04
jelknerthat is going to be a challenge11:04
jelkneryou will need a U.S. phone number for a lot of what we want to do11:04
jelkneri can't really help with that right now dcammue 11:04
jelkneri ask a friend who know a lot about telephony11:05
jelknerand he told me Google voice may be the cheapest way to go.11:05
jelknerbut i don't know how to set that up11:05
jelknerwe are blocking on the Jetro office11:05
svayethomasboimah: can you give me an estimated time for the completion of the website jelkner spoke of yesterday?11:05
jelknersince i don't want to spend a lot of time on solutions to tech problems that aren't durable11:06
jelknerand nothing will be durable until we have a durable location11:06
jelknerand durable Internet11:06
jelkneretc.11:06
jelknerso we need the office11:06
jelknerwithout that, we should focus on other things11:06
jelknerthat we can control11:06
jelknerdcammue: i can send you the bank statements11:07
jelknerfrom SJC11:07
jelknerin PDF11:07
jelknerand you can update the books from those11:07
mulbahI'm have way done with it have build so many feature for it attendance management, viewing all member, admin roles and permission to mange Member Information across many branches I plan to make it as a Multi-tenant app for other churches  11:07
jelknerwhat is the tech stack mulbah?11:07
dcammue+1 that right 11:07
freenaYesterday I read the decidim book and I didn't some practice and watch some toturials on graphic design. Today I plan to continue plan to continue. 11:08
freenaACTION done 11:08
freenaSvaye and thomasboimah, sorry I was out of data yesterday but will send you it today 11:09
jelknerfreena: if you have an artistic skill, we sure could use that!11:09
jelknerdo you draw, freena?11:09
jelknermy experience is that we need someone who already likes to draw11:09
jelknersomeone who has "art in their bones" so to speak11:09
jelknerit is very hard to learn design unless you love it11:10
jelknerand in my experience, it isn't hard to tell the folks who "love it"11:10
jelknerthey draw all the time11:10
freenaI am not go with my hands on paper but I can sure do some designs using the computer 11:10
freenajelkner: 11:10
jelknerjust because they want to11:10
jelknernot because anyone is telling them to11:10
jelknerwell, i look forward to seeing what you've got when i come to visith11:11
jelknervisit11:11
jelknerok, i have to go11:11
mulbahfor the fronted I using Vue and tailwind css and the back-end Frappe Framework (which use Python and JS) it have a build in admin page11:11
freenaAlright jelkner 11:11
jelkneri remember looking into it11:11
jelknerit is an Indian project11:11
mulbahYes11:11
mulbahit's make your work faster11:12
jelknervery free software oriented and apparently with a large community11:12
jelkneryes, mulbah, and no11:12
jelknerbe careful11:12
jelkner"magic solutions" aren't magic11:12
jelknerif you don't have skills11:12
jelkneryou won't become a pro11:12
mulbahyou can write a code and do more11:12
jelknerwe can't market your labor unless you know what you are doing11:12
jelkneryes, mulbah, i know11:13
mulbahthey have a Desk page that you can create a custom page11:13
jelknerbut large frameworks produce *very large* source trees11:13
mulbahusing Js and py for the api cal11:13
mulbahcall11:13
jelknercomplex and complicated11:13
jelknerwhen something breaks (and it *will break*)11:13
jelknerif you don't know your craft11:13
jelkneryou will be helpless to fix it11:13
jelkneryou'll have an angry customer wondering why you can't fix their issues11:14
jelknerand you will be scared and frustrated11:14
mulbahfor creating database table you just have to create a Doctype and can work with the Fields you Frappe methods11:14
jelknersince you will be helpless to fix it11:14
jelknersince you thought it was just "magic"11:14
jelknerand it isn't11:14
jelknerit's software11:14
jelkneri'm not trying to discourage you11:14
jelkneri'm just telling you that what thomasboimah is doing is what we need to do11:15
jelknerwe need real skills11:15
jelknerthen we can use whatever frameworks we want11:15
mulbahokay Jeff11:15
jelknerwe can talk more when i'm there11:15
jelkneri think we should look into frappe11:15
jelknerit looks promising11:16
jelknerbut i like to say...11:16
mulbahSure before them I might complete the church management system11:16
jelknerwe need to crawl before we walk, and walk before we run, and run before we fly11:16
jelkneryou're trying to fly11:16
mulbahand be full prepare for the Linux+ exam11:16
jelknerand you don't know how to crawl yet11:16
jelknerit won't work11:16
jelkneri'm old11:16
mulbah*fully*11:16
jelknerand my experience teaches me that lesson11:17
jelkneroh, btw, if you are using it to do a volunteer project like you are, mulbah 11:17
jelknernp11:17
jelkneryour customers aren't paying you11:17
jelknerso when things break11:17
jelknerthey can't be too mad at you11:17
jelknerand you will then learn on your own11:18
jelknerso please, go ahead and try to fly! ;-)11:18
jelknerbreak things11:18
jelknerjust not your bones ;-)11:18
thomasboimahHahaha11:18
mulbahhahahah11:18
jelknerok, i need to go11:18
jelknerdcammue: i'll email you links to the pdfs11:18
freenaHahahaha 11:18
jelknersee you all tomorrow11:18
mulbahOkay Jeff have a nice day11:18
jelknersame place, same time11:19
jelkneryou too!11:19
svayeHave a wonderful day jelkner 11:19
jelkneryou too svaye 11:19
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