IRC log of #jetrowebdev for Wednesday, 2025-10-15

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jkollieGood morning jelkner thomasboimah and svaye10:58
svayeGood morning everyone!10:58
jelknerYesterday i met with Mr. Zawolo and Sahnun to talk about our progress. Today i'll be meeting with the SE Business Club from 5:30 to 7 EST. No blockers.11:00
thomasboimahYesterday, I was unable to work because I was taking care of my mother. Today, I have a meeting with Sahnun and afterward, I plan to complete and submit my UoPeople Database assignment. No blocker.11:00
jelknerACTION done11:00
thomasboimahACTION done11:00
jelknerhow is your mom doing, thomasboimah?11:00
dcammueYesterday,  I did my graded quizzes and read on the US tax filing system today I will do one of my assignments 11:00
thomasboimahShe trying11:00
dcammueNo blockers 11:00
jkollieyesterday I went through the NOVASEN Decidim and started by adding my first proposal introducing myself and etc. I also created my account on 11:00
jkolliethe TODO app so Kei and I can work together on what she planned to add. Today I'll start with the Decidim book. No blocker.11:00
thomasboimahThanks for asking jelkner 11:00
jkollieACTION done11:00
dcammueACTION don11:01
svayeYesterday I found the IRS website for the my study on the tax system of America. I was able to get this link https://uscode.house.gov/ but it's not opening in the browser. Today I am getting prepared for the meeting. No blockers 11:01
svayeACTION done11:01
gabriel_jetroGreetings everyone, yesterday I did complete my UOP assignment, my phone charger misbehaving that's the only blocker for now 11:01
gabriel_jetroACTION done 11:01
jkollieHope your mom get better soon thomasboimah11:01
jelkneri can only stay a few minutes11:02
thomasboimahThanks jkollie 11:02
svayethomasboimah: I pray for speedy recovery for your mom 11:02
thomasboimahThanks11:02
jelknerbut we need to discuss a few things11:02
gabriel_jetrothomasboimah: wish your mom speedy recovery 11:02
jelknersvaye and dcammue, will you be at the SE Business Club meeting this evening?11:02
svaye+111:02
jelknerit's late for you, i know11:02
dcammue+111:03
jelkner21:30 to 23:00 UTC11:03
dcammueYes I am in the note11:03
jelknerso if you can be there in the beginning, we can talk about taxes first and then let you two go to sleep11:03
gabriel_jetrojelkner: i have some updates concerning finding land, I took a tour this few days at the fendell belt and it's guarantee that we can get land available 11:03
svayeIt okay jelkner I am used to working late in the night, that wouldn't be a problem.11:03
dcammueOkay 11:04
jelknersvaye, i'm not surprised to hear that the irc website won't load11:04
jelkneryou're going to need a VPN to be able to access US state and national websites from Liberia11:04
jelkneri'm waiting for Jetro to get its office before we set that up11:04
jelknerso we are blocking on the office11:04
jelknerthat's why i keep pushing for that11:05
jelknerin the mean time dcammue and svaye, i do have a request for you11:05
jelkneri can put this in the ToDo11:05
dcammueOkay 11:05
jelknerinvestigate StarLink and tell me what you hear11:06
jelknerit seems we could get it at affordable rates11:06
svaye+111:06
jelknerand that it would give us fast speeds and reliable service11:06
svayeDo you want that today?11:06
jelknerElon Musk is evil11:06
mulbah_Haha11:06
jelknerso we would be "contracting with the devil"11:06
jelknerbut you gotta do what you gotta do until a better alternative comes around11:07
svaye+111:07
jelknerok jkollie 11:07
jelkneri didn't see you on the Decidim yesterday11:07
jelkneri saw only kei and tony11:07
jelknerand now me ;-)11:07
jkollieI later join after you in a few minutes11:08
jkollieI was going to ask11:08
jkolliejelkner are you now a NOVASEN admin?11:09
jelkneroh nice, i see you now!11:09
jelknergreat11:09
jelknerthis will be really good for us11:09
jelknerthomasboimah: i don't know how much time you have today11:09
jkollie+1 jelkner11:09
thomasboimahI have time 11:09
jelknerbut as soon as i got kei's email about the decidim instance11:09
gabriel_jetroACTION waiting for a proposal on my tour at the fendell belt.11:09
jelkneri purchased the domain novasen.org11:09
thomasboimahFor Metro anytime11:09
thomasboimah*metro*11:10
jelknerand put it under novawebdevelopment control on namecheap11:10
thomasboimah*Jetro11:10
jelknergot you11:10
jelkneri'll send an email to you, kei, tony, and guillaume asking that we point novasen.org at that instance11:10
thomasboimahOkay11:11
jelknerok, anything else before i go?11:11
gabriel_jetrojelkner: didn't you saw my message?11:11
jelknerthomasboimah: take care of your mother.  Whatever time you need to help her, take it.11:11
jelknergabriel_jetro: not yet11:11
thomasboimahOkay11:11
jelknerdid you send an email?11:11
gabriel_jetroNo, I mean in the conversation 11:12
jelkneroh gabriel_jetro, i see it now11:12
gabriel_jetroOkay 11:12
jelknergabriel_jetro: we can talk about land in Fendell when i visit next summer11:12
jelknermr. zawolo will help guide us11:13
gabriel_jetroOhk, I'll still be doing some investigation 11:13
jelknerplease do that gabriel_jetro!11:13
gabriel_jetroIght 11:13
jelknerthe more you know, the more actively you can participate in the discussion and help guide us11:14
jelknerfirst step is the Jetro office11:14
jelknermr. zawolo says that will be near where he has his house11:14
gabriel_jetro+111:15
jelknerit's not in Fendell, but he says it is easy to get to Fendell from there11:15
jelknerok, i have to go11:15
jelkneranything else?11:15
gabriel_jetro-1 for me 11:15
jelknerokie dokie, see you all tomorrow, same time, same place11:16
jelknerjkollie: look what i wrote on the decidim11:16
jelkneri mention you ;-)11:16
svayeHave a wonderful day jelkner , see you later today.11:16
jelkneryou too svaye, see you tonight11:16
jelknerACTION signs off11:16
gabriel_jetroHave a great day 11:16
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sahnun_Hi thomas16:01
thomasboimahHi sahnun_ welcome16:01
thomasboimahSo what's the plan goal for today??16:01
thomasboimah*/pland* *goal*16:01
sahnun_The goal is to (1) answer any questions you have and (2) clarify the discussion about inline styling (3) discuss what feature you're working on and plan the development for it.16:02
sahnun_So, any questions to begin?16:02
thomasboimahI don't have any question everything is move fine16:02
thomasboimah*moving*16:02
thomasboimahSo have you look up about the inline styling in Django now.16:03
sahnun_Ok, for inline style discussion, do you agree we can add inline styles inside of a template view in Django, rather than only external CSS or in base.html?16:03
thomasboimahNO. I don't that is the best way to do that16:04
thomasboimah*thinK*16:04
sahnun_My question is not if it's the best way.16:04
sahnun_The question is if it's possible.16:05
sahnun_?16:06
thomasboimahI don't know about that but i don't think so16:06
sahnun_So, let's do an experiment. Do you know how style tags work in HTML?16:06
thomasboimahDid you try to do that??16:06
thomasboimahYes!16:06
sahnun_No, so let's give a try?16:06
sahnun_Do you have it running on your local system, the app?16:06
thomasboimahYes! i guess you do too16:07
sahnun_Yes, so take a peek at this16:07
sahnun_https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/FboFKZc1/16:08
sahnun_This is a Django template view I got from Google Gemini AI just now. So, can you choose an HTML element that you would like to style? What about a button?16:09
thomasboimahOkay 16:10
thomasboimahOkay one question sahnun_ , Did you know why we don't use inline styling in Django??16:11
sahnun_Thomas please don't worry about teaching me16:11
sahnun_I'm here to teach you.16:11
thomasboimahOkay16:11
sahnun_I appreciate your opinion but my time is limited and I want you to learn more than I want to learn right now.16:12
sahnun_Does that make sense?16:12
thomasboimah+116:12
thomasboimahyes16:12
sahnun_Ok, so, is there an HTML element, like a button or div or h1 tag you'd like to modify? Please tell me the file and the element.16:12
thomasboimahDo the button for the button for the task_list.html16:13
sahnun_Ok, for that button, I want you to add: "style="background-color: [choose your own color, Thomas]"16:14
sahnun_let me know what color you choose.16:14
thomasboimahblue16:15
sahnun_Ok, please make the change and run the solution. Let's see if this inline style works :)16:15
thomasboimahit did not work16:21
sahnun_I see, so I'm looking into it and it may have to do with caching or inheritance, because this is a pattern that works. Do you know anywhere else CSS rules are being applied to the button?16:22
thomasboimahNo16:24
sahnun_Give me a minute to debug. In the meantime, try to update the style in the base.html as practice.16:24
thomasboimahThat is not going to work because the task_list.html is listing to the base.html16:24
thomasboimahOkay16:25
sahnun_Hmm? 16:31
sahnun_You can't update the Logout button styles in base.html?16:31
thomasboimahYOu can16:31
sahnun_And task_list.html wouldn't work? It inherits from base.html, too, no>16:31
sahnun_?16:31
thomasboimahyes16:32
thomasboimahIf you try to style the button in the base.html you will see it will work because all the templating is listening to it16:36
thomasboimahBut that is not evening the better way too. 16:37
thomasboimahThat better to do styling in django to have the static/css/style.css directory link in the base.html and load to all template16:38
thomasboimah*way*16:38
sahnun_Thomas, I understand that, it's meant as practice for you to simply do it and be able to do it in the future for when it *does* make sense.16:39
thomasboimahOkay.16:40
sahnun_I have to go soon but question: did you follow a tutorial and best practices for the way you're rendering the pages?16:40
sahnun_You're using redirect --- and not referencing the .html file directly in there, was that recommended or a way to overcome a buga?16:40
thomasboimahYes! django documentation16:40
sahnun_bug*16:40
sahnun_Ok, well, I'm sorry this did not work today. I'm still confident you can do inline styles because HTML is read by a browser, and if there are style tags inside, it will interpret the CSS right there. Google confirms this hypothesis.16:41
sahnun_Now, you're homework is to spend one hour researching inline styles and Django and see if you can get it working. I will do the same before we meet next.16:41
sahnun_How does that sound?16:41
thomasboimahIt can work. but for the code now it will not work because make all the template to listenning to the base.html16:42
thomasboimah*I*16:42
thomasboimahfor any changes16:43
thomasboimahOkay16:43
sahnun_Don't worry about it - if you're comfortable editing base.html to make *global* changes to css elements for templates that inherit from base.html, then, this is just practice for something you already know.16:43
thomasboimahOkay16:44
sahnun_How does the above sound, though? I'm sorry I'm extremely busy.16:44
thomasboimahOkay16:44
thomasboimahlet fine time to meet again16:44
thomasboimahThanks for the time today16:44
sahnun_Ok, great. You can do it! I'm looking forward to hearing what you end up trying and I promise I'll have it working before we meet next.16:44
sahnun_How's your mother doing?16:44
thomasboimahShe is trying now. Thanks for asking sahnun_ 16:45
sahnun_I will be praying for her. If you ever need time or would rather be with her, which is very important right now, please feel free to cancel up to the last minute or even take time away from practicing. This can wait.16:46
sahnun_<316:46
thomasboimahOkay 16:46
sahnun_Have a good rest of your day Thomas and I'm excited to get *both* of us to expert level Django :)16:46
thomasboimahYeah!16:47
thomasboimahThanks for today16:47
sahnun_You're welcome!16:47
thomasboimahhave a nice day16:47
thomasboimahACTION signing off16:48
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