IRC log of #jetrowebdev for Monday, 2025-08-25

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dcammueGood morning svaye 10:42
svayeHi dcammue how are you doing10:43
svayedcammue, I had a hard time finding the bookkeeping and payroll course, but thanks for the link you sent on Friday.10:44
dcammueOkay 10:45
dcammueSo you got it right 10:45
svayehow do you interact with the instructor? 10:46
svayeI can see the course modules10:46
thomasboimahGood morning dcammue and svaye 10:51
dcammueGood morning thomasboimah 10:51
dcammueHow are you bro?10:52
thomasboimahI'm good bro and you10:53
svayeGood morning thomasboimah, how are you guys doing.10:53
svayeHappy Flay Day!!10:53
svayeGood morning jelkner 10:56
jelknerGood Monday morning to you svaye, thomasboimah, and dcammue!10:56
thomasboimahgood morning jelkner 10:57
jkollieGood morning jelkner and jetro websters10:57
thomasboimahGood morning jkollie 10:57
dcammueGood morning jelkner 10:57
dcammueGood morning jkollie 10:58
dcammueHow was your weekend folks?10:58
jelknerGreat dcammue, i hope yours was likewise.10:58
jelknerOver the weekend i looked at the allison.com material (not a fan :-( and downloaded videos from Prof. Aldridge (am a fan :-) which i put on our db server to thomasboimah to access. Today i'll greet my students for the new school year. No blockers.11:00
jelknerACTION done11:00
thomasboimahOver the weekend, I completed two issues for the Todo app. One has already been merged into the main branch, while the second is awaiting final review before merge. Today, I plan to start work on the next issue related to CRUD operations. No blockers.11:01
thomasboimahBy the way, Jelkner, I have registered for my database class. I will send you the book we will be using as soon as the term starts.11:01
thomasboimahACTION done11:02
svayeDuring the week I took a look at the Alison website and went through the courses the offer, it was kinda hard to locate the bookkeeping and payroll course but thanks to the link dcammue sent on Friday I can access it now, I will start effectively today. No blockers11:02
thomasboimahI mean you and Chris11:02
svayeACTION done11:02
dcammueDuring the weekend,  I did not attend my Alison class because we had connection problem from our house with the electricity supply, due to that, my computer run out off power. But it will be fix today. Today hopefully,  as we resolved our electricity issue,  I will continue my class and also look into gnucash. 11:02
dcammueACTION done11:02
jkollieDuring the weekend I read and study from the Decidim book(chapter 1.1) and created a brief note using markdown, I also highlited what I understand from the reading. and created a git repository to add the note. Today I'll do an overview and  continue reading from chapter 1.211:02
jkollieACTION done11:03
jelknerok, standup meeting over11:03
jelknerlet's talk11:03
jelknerfirst thomasboimah 11:03
jelkneri hate to use a baseball saying, since i know football is your jam in Liberia11:04
jelknerbut, thomasboimah, you are knocking it out of the park!11:04
jelkner(that's what happens when you hit a home run so far it leaves the stadium ;-)11:05
jelkneri've been following the gitlab messages11:05
jelknerthis process with you and cjones is wonderful11:05
jelknereverything i hoped it would be11:05
jelknerplease keep it up!11:05
jelknersoon, we'll have you teaching your other dev team members11:05
jelknerso they can contribute too11:05
jelknercan't wait to see your database book, btw.11:06
jelknersvaye: you are next11:06
jelknerbut i have a task for thomasboimah first11:06
jelknerthomasboimah: i made an account for you on our database server11:06
jelkneri need your public key11:06
jelknerso you can access it11:07
jelknercan you put it in pastebin for me?11:07
jelknerplease11:07
thomasboimahACTION just send his public key to jelkner 11:07
jelknerdcammue and svaye, we need to discuss our ed resources for financial accounting11:07
thomasboimahprivately11:07
jelknerbrb11:08
thomasboimahI did'nt see this message: can you put it in pastebin for me?11:08
thomasboimahlet me do that11:08
jelknerthomasboimah: can you please try to ssh into the server?11:11
thomasboimahaddress please11:11
jelknerit's in the private chat11:11
thomasboimahi see it11:11
jelkneroh wait11:12
jelkneryou need the username11:12
thomasboimahjelkner,  Permission denied (publickey).11:12
jelknersorry about that!11:13
jelknerwhile we wait for thomasboimah 11:13
thomasboimahstill getting the same error jelkner 11:14
jelknersvaye and dcammue, let's talk about our study11:14
svaye+111:14
jelkneri don't want to tell you what resources to use11:14
jelknersince i like the fact that you are taking initiative and looking for resources on your own11:14
jelknerwhich is a skill you need to develop11:14
jelknerbut i would encourage you to look for resources that are as OER as possible11:15
thomasboimahstill getting the same error jelkner 11:15
jelknerhmmm...11:15
jelknerthomasboimah: not sure how to debug this11:15
jelkneri copied the two public keys you gave me11:15
thomasboimahMake sure the ssh key all in one line11:15
jelknerone line?11:15
jelknerit looked like two11:15
jelkneri'll try to make that change11:16
jelknerwhile i do that, svaye and dcammue, look up OER and tell me what it means11:16
dcammuethomasboimah: 11:16
jkolliejelkner11:16
thomasboimahthe should be no spacing or breakdown11:16
thomasboimah*there11:16
jelknercan you please paste again in the private chat what you want me to put?11:17
jelkneryou pasted two lines11:17
jelknerthat could be the problem11:17
jelknerpaste just one11:17
jelknersvaye, let me know when you think you know what OER is please11:18
svayeOER means Open Education Resources, which means it is freely and publicly available teaching, learning and research resources that reside in the public domain.11:18
jelkneryes indeed11:18
jelknernice work11:18
jelknerOER is a concept that is important to UoPeople11:18
jelknersince to avoid students having to pay for books, UoPeople strives to use OER as much as possible11:19
jelknereither OER or at least freely distributable11:19
jelkneri personally didn't like allison.com11:19
jelknerit is definitely *not* OER11:19
jelkneri started the course dcammue recommended11:19
jelkneri even started taking notes11:20
jelknerhttps://codeberg.org/jelkner/SolidarityEconomyNotes/src/branch/main/FinancialAccounting/AlisonDotCom/01_Introduction_GAAP.md11:20
jelknerthat's still two lines thomasboimah 11:20
jelknerlet's try pastebin11:21
jelknerhttps://pastebin.com/11:21
jelknergive me a url of your paste11:21
thomasboimahhttps://pastebin.com/VP5pJ5U911:22
jelkneranyway, svaye and dcammue, she mentions that there are 11 GAAP rules11:22
jelknerthen she has a slide with 3 of them11:22
jelknerwhich i took notes on11:22
jelknerand they she starts saying "you remember from the previous course that..."11:22
jelknerwhat previous course?!11:23
jelknerwe need a resource that assumes no previous courses, right?11:23
dcammueFrom the beginning of her introduction 11:23
dcammueShe made mention of that 11:23
jelknerand as i mentioned, the site is all about monetizing this stuff11:23
jelknerso it has adds11:23
jelknerand keeps encouraging you to sign up for the paid tier11:24
svaye+111:24
jelknernot my kind of resource personally11:24
jelkneri found what i think is a better one personally11:24
dcammueBut I don't do adds sign up11:24
jelknera big series of videos that give redistribution rights11:25
jelknerthomasboimah: any luck?11:25
thomasboimahhttps://pastebin.com/VP5pJ5U911:25
thomasboimahGreeting anthony_p 11:26
jkolliejelkner: can I ask you a question11:26
jelknerthomasboimah: i put your pastebin in the authorized_keys file11:26
jelknernot yet jkollie 11:26
jelknertoo many things at once11:27
jkollieits okay11:27
jelknerlet me finish with thomasboimah, svaye and dcammue 11:27
jelkneranyway, here is what i found:11:27
jelknerhttps://www.youtube.com/@ProfAlldredge11:27
thomasboimahIt work now jelkner I am in!11:28
jelkneri downloaded the first 35 videos from the series we would want to start with11:28
jelknergreat thomasboimah!11:28
jelknerdo you see a rather large .tgz file in your home directory?11:28
jelkner2.6GB11:28
thomasboimahyes11:28
thomasboimahProfAlldredge.tgz11:29
jelknerthat has the first 35 videos for svaye and dcammue 11:29
jelkneryup11:29
jelknerdownload it, untar ungzip it11:29
jelknerand give the videos to them please11:29
jelknerthen we can delete the file11:29
thomasboimahOkay sir!11:29
jelknersince we only have 25GB on that server11:29
thomasboimahI am doing it right now11:29
jelknerand can't afford to leave 2.6GB just sitting there11:30
jelkneranthony_p: great to see you here!11:30
jelkneranthony_p: thomasboimah is doing great work with cjones11:30
jelknerour goal is to have him fully ready to work with you in a few months11:30
anthony_pgood to hear11:31
jelkneryou can take a peak at the ToDo git repo when you have a change11:31
jelknerchance11:31
jelknerto see what they've been doing11:31
jelknerok, svaye since you are the paid staffer right now11:31
jelkneri need to put you in charge of the following task11:31
jelknerplease take a look at the videos thomasboimah is downloading11:32
jelkneralso take a look at the notes i started taking from them:11:32
jelknerhttps://codeberg.org/jelkner/SolidarityEconomyNotes/src/branch/main/FinancialAccounting/01_intro.md11:32
jelknerNext Sunday Heylin and Luis are coming over to my place to talk about forming a Bookkeeping Cooperative11:33
jelknerwe will be working with you two svaye and dcammue 11:33
jelknerour first tasks will be:11:33
jelkner1. To find some good common resources we can use to study together11:34
jelkner2. To apply what we are learning ASAP to the books we are setting up for Jetro Web, NOVA Web, SECOSOL, and SJC11:34
jelknerwe need to *learn by doing*11:34
jelknerto combine theory with practice11:34
jelknerso that each informs the other11:34
jelknermake sense?11:35
dcammue,+111:35
dcammue+111:35
jelknerok, last think for you thomasboimah 11:35
jelkneryour password on the server is the same as dcammue's database password11:35
jelknerget that from him11:35
jelknerand change your password please11:36
jelknerright now you do not have sudo rights11:36
jelkneronly cjones and jelkner do11:36
jelknerwe will grant you sudo when cjones thinks you are ready11:36
jelknersound good?11:36
thomasboimah+111:36
jelknerawesome11:36
jelknernow jkollie, what can i help you with?11:37
jkollieIs there a specific way you want me to structure the note or just to get what I understand from the reading?11:37
jkollieam asking because11:38
jelkneri like "just what I understand from the reading"!!11:38
jelknerthat's what i'm looking for11:38
jelknerso we can talk about it11:38
jelkneri want to know what you understand11:38
jelknerperfect jkollie!11:38
jkollieokay11:38
jkollieI added the note to the git repo I created, I can paste the link if you are ready to take a look11:38
jelknereven better jkollie, send me an email! ;-)11:39
jelkneri'm ready11:39
jelknerok Jetro Websters, i normally won't have this much time11:39
jelknertoday is the first day11:39
jkollieokay will do that11:39
svayejelkner, 11:39
jelknerso i won't see students until 13:3011:39
jelknertomorrow starts normal schedule11:40
jelkneri'll only have 20 minutes max11:40
jelkner11:00 to 11:20 UTC11:40
jelknersvaye?11:40
svayejelkner, how is Kei doing? i haven't heard from her in a while11:40
jelknersvaye: kei needs to earn money to live11:40
jelknershe is working a lot with Magic Broom11:41
jelknercleaning houses11:41
jelkner3 days a week11:41
jelknerour goal needs to be to get NOVA Web to earn enough revenue she doesn't have to do that11:41
jelkneranthony_p has been driving Door Dash11:41
jelknersame issue11:41
svayeWow! please extend my greetings to her.11:42
jelknerwe need to earn enough revenue so that our two NOVA Web worker / owners, anthony_p and kei, can live from the coop11:42
jelknerco-op11:42
jelkneri will svaye 11:42
jelknershe looks at the logs11:42
dcammuejelkner: what you think about Alison free course? Is it appropriate for us too continue with the class or is optional?11:42
jelknerso she will see your greatings here ;-)11:42
jelknerdcammue: i am not planning to use it11:43
jelkneruse whatever resources you like dcammue 11:43
jelknerbut if we want to have a common understanding11:43
dcammueThan we should use one resource 11:43
jelkneri suggest you include the Prof. Alldredge videos i have to thomasboimah 11:43
jelknerthey are more "free"11:44
thomasboimahjelkner, should i delete the .tgz file after i download it or you will do that?11:44
jelknerin that he gives permission for educators to download them (like i did)11:44
jelknerand share them11:44
jelknerthose permissions are not given on allison.com11:44
dcammueHmmm okay 11:44
jelknerProf. Alldredge is still not OER11:45
jelknerfor that, you need permission to *change* the resource11:45
jelknerbut as long as we have permission to share11:45
jelknerthat's ok i think11:45
jelknerwe'll write our own OER book later, right svaye? ;-)11:45
thomasboimahjelkner, should i delete the .tgz file after i download it or you will do that?11:46
jelkner+111:46
jelknerok, i need to go11:46
thomasboimahit id downloading now11:46
thomasboimah*is11:46
jelknerlet me just say again Jetro Websters, that it keeps getting more and more fun, and more and more joyful to work with you!11:46
jelknerI love watching us grow together11:47
jelknerWe're doing it!11:47
svayethat'll would be amazing jelkner 11:47
jelknerSee you tomorrow, same time, same place11:47
dcammueSee you then 11:47
jelknerACTION logs off for the day11:47
svayehave a wonderful day jelkner 11:47
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dcammuethomasboimah: 11:47
dcammueHow we will get the videos you are downloading?11:48
thomasboimahThat is what i am think on11:48
thomasboimahMade be i will ssh it to your computer11:49
thomasboimah*maybe11:49
dcammueOkay 11:49
thomasboimahI will let you know when i ready to do that so your internet can be on11:49
dcammueThen I have to download again right?11:50
thomasboimahlet me see how large it will be. Maybe i can still send it through whatapp11:50
dcammueI an using my phone bro11:50
dcammueOkay 11:50
dcammueThat the best way I think 11:51
dcammueWathsapp 11:51
thomasboimahI will send it before tomorrow bro11:53
thomasboimahbe on the look11:54
thomasboimahbye guys11:55
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