IRC log of #jetrowebdev for Friday, 2025-07-11

svayeGood afternoon thomasboimah and dcammue 12:23
dcammueGood afternoon svaye 12:23
thomasboimahGood afternoon svaye 12:23
thomasboimahGood afternoon dcammue 12:24
dcammueGood afternoon thomasboimah 12:24
dcammueHow you guys doing?12:24
mulbahHello guy12:24
thomasboimahGood and you?12:24
jelknerGood afternoon thomasboimah, dcammue, mulbah and svaye!12:25
dcammueGood morning honorable jelkner 12:25
thomasboimahGood morning jelkner 12:25
mulbahGood morning jelkner 12:25
svayeGood morning jelkner 12:25
jelknerWe had an *amazing* trip to North Carolina!12:25
svayeThat's wonderful 12:26
mulbahthat is awesome to hear12:26
jelknerWe saw two working examples of the very kinds of solidarity economy ecosystems we hope to build.12:26
jelknerPoder Emma is the result of more than 20 years of work.12:27
jelknerSo we also were provided with help in forming a realistic time frame for what it will take.12:27
jelknerThey are organized to provide housing, work, food, and recreation to their members.12:28
jelknerWe met in the large building they now collectively own.12:29
jelknerThey hold meetings there, members can use the space for parties, 4 worker co-ops work there, and they are forming a fifth that will be doing textile production.12:29
jelknerAnyway, it's .... SHOWTIME!12:30
thomasboimahImpressive!!12:30
dcammueThanks jelkner it is impressive 12:30
thomasboimahYesterday, I worked on Ms. Scholl's website, and it is nearly complete. We just need a few more pieces of information to finish it. I plan to talk to Kei so she can email Ms. Scholl for the remaining details. Today, I intend to do some reading on Django documentation. And take another look at the website.12:30
thomasboimahACTION done12:31
jelknerToday i will be unpacking from my weeks of travel, and i'll resume studying for the praxis exam i have next tuesday, and preparing to meet mr. zawolo on monday.12:31
jelknerno blockers12:31
jelknerACTION done12:31
dcammueYes I did  a practice on html and css skills improvement and I am reading on gnucash today 12:31
dcammueACTION done12:32
dcammue*yesterday *12:32
svayeToday I will resume my Spanish learning, I wasn't able to focus on it this week because of the arrival of my grandma, but she's leaving today.12:32
svayeACTION done12:32
klariosHi all! sorry for being a bit late!12:33
jelknerGood morning klarios, please look at the log to see what transpired12:33
jelknerGood afternoon freena, please look at the log to see what transpired12:34
freenaOkay jelkner 12:34
klariosalright jelkner 12:34
freenaSorry I'm late 12:34
jelknerthomasboimah, svaye and jelkner have already reported12:34
jelknerand dcammue 12:35
jelknerwe are waiting on mulbah12:35
jelknerand the two late comers12:35
klariosgreat! well Today I will be working on doing research for a lending cooperative partner for NWD. Also good news, we are finally signers in the bank account!12:37
klariosme and svaye got class today after a while! 12:37
freenaYesterday, I went to the business registry to get some updates, today I will be studying html and css12:37
klariosw/me done12:37
klariosACTION done12:38
mulbahYesterday I read on Caching in Djnago and plan to add it to my website for improved performance and also work on Ms. Scholl's website.12:38
freenaI also did some research on the map12:38
freenaACTION done 12:38
klariosthomasboimah: did you see all of the emails I sent from Ms. Scholl12:38
klarios?12:38
thomasboimahYes klarios 12:38
klariosof all the images 12:38
klariosgreat! now you need the content right?12:38
mulbahACTION done12:39
jelknerSuper!12:39
jelknerWe finished in under 10 minutes.12:39
thomasboimahbut i still need some information like: Chapter Officer name, Photo and position 12:39
jelknerWay to rock it, websters!12:39
klariosyep jelkner ! we've been exercising the under 10 minutes muscle!12:40
jelknerthomasboimah, i don't want to distract you from your conversation with klarios 12:40
dcammuefreena12:40
jelknerbut i'd like to take a few minutes for a look at our medium term goals before i get to work for the day12:40
thomasboimahjelkner, ans klarios the secosol website is now life!12:40
thomasboimah*and12:40
klariosI saw! Thank you thomasboimah !!!12:40
freenaYes dcammue 12:41
jelkneryou da' man, thomasboimah!12:41
jelknerin fact, that is exactly what i want to reflect on so all of us can see it.12:41
klariosI was truly excited when I saw it yesterday, given our experience I also want to see a blog for the site soon 12:41
dcammueWhat update did you got from the LBR?12:41
jelknerthanks to the fantastic work of thomasboimah 12:42
klariosthank you jelkner, lets shift the conversation that way 12:42
jelknerwe are moving toward becoming a legit business12:42
jelknerand we are reaching important milestones that we need to note12:42
jelknerand replicate12:42
jelkner1. thomasboimah had his first pull request accepted by cjones12:43
jelknerthat was *HUGE*12:43
jelknersince it means a first successful completion of a process that will need to happen hundreds of times in the near future12:43
jelknerand involve not just thomasboimah, but mulbah and gabriel too12:43
jelknerwhen that happens, we have our dev team for real12:44
jelknerand we can begin to look for customers12:44
jelknerand generate all the revenue we need on a regular basis12:44
jelknerthat brings me to number 212:44
jelkner2. The Ms. Scholl website12:44
jelknerthis isn't finished yet12:45
jelknerbut when it is, it will be another milestone12:45
freenaWe can go ahead with the change of name for now 12:45
jelknerit will be a customer that came to us through word of mouth12:45
jelknerand whom we were able to serve12:45
jelknersuccessfully12:45
jelknerwe will need lots more of those12:45
freenaSince it's not the cooperative name that we was to get changed 12:45
jelknerbut a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step12:46
jelknerand this is our first step12:46
jelkneralso fantastic is the way thomasboimah handled SECOSOL12:46
jelkneri checked each day and was thrilled when i saw the site back up12:46
jelknerthere will be paid SECOSOL work to do12:46
jelknerso that will provide more opportunity for you to learn and grow in your experience12:47
dcammueAfter that what next freena? We don't need to take it back to LBR for verify or anything else?12:47
jelknerthat's all i wanted to say for now12:47
thomasboimahThanks for the kind words jelkner 12:48
jelknerthomasboimah, i think one of your main tasks is to continue to learn to co-ordinate with mulbah and gabriel12:48
jelknerso that your power can be multiplied by 312:48
thomasboimahsure!12:48
jelknerok, freena, i'm going to call mr. zawolo today12:49
freenaLike I said dcamm, we don't need to take it back since the incorporators names are not written on the business certificate 12:49
jelkneri'm getting together with him on monday12:49
klariosyes! One thing that I want to see is a a collaborative workflow, clearly there are so many things to do. SItes, servers, internal technology, Tech debt, etc. and we agree that thomasboimah mulbah gabriel can do it! it truly is a matter of figuring out what are the strengths and the passions of individuals while considering priority 12:49
freenaI Spoke with Mr. Zawolo concerning the office space jelkner 12:49
jelknerwhat did he say freena?12:50
freenaAnd he said that he will be in Liberia by August so the search for the office space should begin when he come to Liberia 12:50
jelkner+112:51
jelknerfreena, i'll be discussing budget with him on monday too12:51
jelknerin addition to funding for the office, i want to send whatever financial resources i can, so we can avoid transfer fees12:52
freenaOkay jelkner 12:52
jelknerbut that means budgeting for them, so they are managed properly12:52
jelknerwe need to talk about that before mr. zawolo leaves12:52
jelknerthomasboimah, i'm going to call cjones today12:53
jelknerand talk about the database server12:53
jelknerfor gnucash12:53
freenaSure jelkner 12:53
thomasboimahklarios, can you please email Ms. Scholl today and ask her for their: 1. Chapter Office name, photo and position 2.Membership Brochure 3. Contact info.12:53
thomasboimahOkay jelkner 12:53
jelknerit would be great if we could learn to keep books together using a shared database for gnucash sooner rather than later12:53
jelknerok, i'm going to log off to get to work12:54
jelknercan we meet monday at the same time and place?12:54
thomasboimah+112:54
klariosSure! I will forward you the email she decided for her office and I will message her about the brochure + Position and then contact info 12:54
dcammueOkay thanks jelkner 12:54
jelkneri won't be able to meet tuesday, since i'll be taking my praxis exam12:54
klariosafter this I believe we will be ready to show her the site right thomasboimah ?12:54
thomasboimahsure klarios !12:55
jelknerhave a great weekend everyone!12:55
jelknersee you hear on monday12:55
dcammueYou too 12:55
freenaHave a great weekend jelkner 12:55
svayeHave a wonderful weekend jelkner 12:55
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klariosgreat! I've got to head out for a bit but I will see svaye in a bit12:55
thomasboimahklarios you have access to the website right? You can take a look at the current version of the website12:56
klariosyes I do12:56
klariosI will take a look today 12:56
svayeSee you in 2hrs klarios12:56
thomasboimahOkay12:56
klariossee you svaye ! 12:56
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klariosgoodbye all!12:56
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thomasboimahbye guys12:57
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freenaGood bye guys 12:57
klariosHi svaye !14:59
svayeHi klarios, how are you doing?14:59
klariosI am doing well thank you! we got back from our trip yesterday so i am a bit tired 14:59
klariosother than that pretty well 14:59
klariosI was checking the decidim page and noticed that I didn't publish the module for this unit. I still want to figure out how to go about it15:00
svayeI understand15:00
klarioslast time we saw each other we did numbers 15:00
klarios1-2015:00
klariosand then numbers 10-100 15:00
klariosYou also looked at some common accounting terms in spanish 15:01
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klariosI asked that you write down those terms and understand them so that you can bring them up today and have a conversation of what term you would like to work with first!15:02
svayeLiquidacion15:03
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klariosGreat! Liquidacion is one of the terms that you learned?15:04
klariosfrom what you learned, what does it mean?15:04
svayeThe meaning of that is settlement in english, which is the process of closing a business, and selling it assets to pay off depts15:07
svayeI didn't get that from the video because it was in spanish so I looked it up on the Internet 15:07
klariosNo worries, the video was not too helpful for definitions15:08
klariosthere arent many resources for spanish learner accountants15:08
klariosbut we will make them!15:08
klariosand yes that is correct!15:09
klariosit isnt necesarily to pay its debts15:09
klariosIt can be asset sharing or asset distribution to their shareholders15:09
klariosfor example is NWD were to dissolve or close down, the worker owners would get 1/3 of all its assets15:09
klariosso we will be focusing on liquidation 15:11
klariosin order to understand liquidation we need most of the concepts of accounting basics15:12
klariossince the assets will mostly equity, here is the math performed: Net Equity=Total Assets−Total Liabilities15:12
klariosPatrimonio Neto=Activos Totales−Pasivos Totales15:12
klariosPatrimonio refers to equity 15:12
klariosActivos refers to assets (or active assets) 15:13
klariospasivos refers to liabilities15:13
klariosactivos will always be positive while pasivos will be negative (liabilities) 15:14
klariosto calculate assets and liabilities or profit, we need a balance sheet15:14
klariosbalance sheets can be extensive depending on the industry of a business.15:15
klariosfor our beneit, the balance sheet will be Nova web dev's balance sheet!15:15
klariosdoes this all make sense?15:16
svayeYes, I know how to create a balance sheet, income statement and general ledger15:16
klariosGreat! so you've already got the concepts we need in english!15:17
svayeYeah, we can say that 15:17
klariosin terms of liquidation of a cooperative we have to consider other aspects to dissolution 15:18
klariosif a cooperative is a members of a incubator or a parent holdings company, the liquidation would be affected by that15:18
klarioscalculating those percentages varies on how much influence a stakeholder has on a cooperative! since cooperatives are not extractive, normally stakeholders keep under 10% of the settlement15:19
klariosand if accounts payables are high, it is even trickier to calculate all of the variables15:20
klariosfor example if a company decides to dissolve while still paying off a company loan, who pays that loan, do partners get any of the liquidation?, etc15:21
klariossince we will be focusing on balance sheets, loss or gain, and interest (for accounts payable), I will assign you to complete a balance sheet vocab assignment15:23
klariosyou willl learn about accounts payable, cash, income, expenses, equity, and PPE, etc. 15:24
klariosdoes that sound like a good step?15:24
svayeYeah15:24
klariosAlright, since that was the direction of the lesson. It is up to me to show you the materials where you will learn about these concepts 15:26
klariosor if you like to take it your own pace15:26
klariosso my homework for myself is to give you resources to build our balance sheet in spanish 15:27
svayeI have accounting books, but it will be great if you can send me other materials 15:27
klariosmy goal is for you to understand numbers and vocabulary in spanish 15:27
klariosno worries svaye ! Today Is kind of a planning class to see where the next step must be taken 15:28
klariosand we chose our next step 15:28
klariosso on tuesday expect us to take our first step into spanish accounting / book keeping15:28
klarios!15:28
svayeAlright,  should the balance sheet be ready by then???15:29
klariosmy plan is to use GNU cash in spanish 15:29
klariosNope we will create the balance sheet together115:29
klarios!15:29
svayeAlright 15:30
klarioson tuesday you will be introduced to balance sheet concepts 15:30
klariosand you will be introduced to GNU cash in spanish!15:30
svayeThat's wonderful!!15:30
klariosyep! I will have to do deeper documentation though15:34
klariosI am hoping you can help me with that15:34
klarios!15:34
klarioswe can consult jelkner as well15:34
klariosI know he said he wants you to write a book about it!15:35
klariosthis book can have be in spanish and english!15:35
svayeJust let me know what should be done, klarios 15:35
klariosOf course! I will look into the documentation that jelkner uses 15:35
klariosI will give you news on tuesday15:36
klariosfor now15:36
klarioslets do some reasearch about GNU cash15:36
klariosjelkner sent some resources a couple of days ago 15:36
klariosI will take a look 15:36
klariosand i will also look through their spanish page15:36
svayeAlright 15:37
klariosgreat! that is good for today then, I will see you on tuesday!15:37
klariosI am excited to get this unit going15:37
klariosonce in a while we will be sneaking exploraciones works + grammar work so that you learn to do pronunciation sooner 15:38
svayeThanks for the time klarios 15:38
klariosof course svaye ! see you for class on tuesday!15:38
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